Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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hashtagpls

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Gotta say, the dysfunction of the anglo american democratic system is laid bare for all to see; take something as straightforward and common sensical as saving the Iran nuclear deal, even Biden fucked it up because he wanted to appease the republicans who are never going to support him anyway.
I fear the same thing will happen to the China talks in Anchorage this week.
 

AssassinsMace

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I never heard that Trump promised to remove tariffs on Chinese exports to the US if the Phase One deal was accomplished. Phase One means there would be at least a Phase Two. Trump would never have given up any of his tariffs after Phase One. You can hear all this rhetoric about ganging-up on China but it's all for the domestic audience and to intimidate China because Biden's foreign policy team is made up of Obama's foreign policy team which believed what China thought was most important was it didn't want to be isolated and left behind hence the logic of how they thought the they would get China to follow the rules of the Pivot to Asia. It didn't work but Americans would rather believe they're that important to everyone else that denying themselves from the Chinese would start revolutions. That's why you see the same ganging up tactics being employed today.
 

B.I.B.

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Translation... Australia was begging for help despite this taunt.

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Do you think greedy people will settle for one when they could've had two? No need for China if you have Saudi Arabia and no need to get the US to make threats on your behalf.
I hope China doubles down. Anyway the US has already signaled that relations will never be the same.
 

ansy1968

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Translation... Australia was begging for help despite this taunt.

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Do you think greedy people will settle for one when they could've had two? No need for China if you have Saudi Arabia and no need to get the US to make threats on your behalf.
@mace a lot of mixed messages, I think foreign relations is being handle by the Media full of contradiction, Its confusing and I'm afraid there is no captain to steer the ship.
 

voyager1

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I hope China doubles down. Anyway the US has already signaled that relations will never be the same.
Yes I mean whats the reason to finance a country which has joined the quad and is actively working against you?

China is not stupid to give money to its enemies so that these enemies buy military equipment and then send it to the South China Sea.

I think Australia should forget about China and focus on other markets..
 

hashtagpls

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I never heard that Trump promised to remove tariffs on Chinese exports to the US if the Phase One deal was accomplished. Phase One means there would be at least a Phase Two. Trump would never have given up any of his tariffs after Phase One. You can hear all this rhetoric about ganging-up on China but it's all for the domestic audience and to intimidate China because Biden's foreign policy team is made up of Obama's foreign policy team which believed what China thought was most important was it didn't want to be isolated and left behind hence the logic of how they thought the they would get China to follow the rules of the Pivot to Asia. It didn't work but Americans would rather believe they're that important to everyone else that denying themselves from the Chinese would start revolutions. That's why you see the same ganging up tactics being employed today.
I think the US 1%er Elites are in agreement of the need to militarily and financially contain China so they can continue pillaging Asia; in this sense, the economics are going to have to defer to the security establishment.
 

hashtagpls

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Yes I mean whats the reason to finance a country which has joined the quad and is actively working against you?

China is not stupid to give money to its enemies so that these enemies buy military equipment and then send it to the South China Sea.

I think Australia should forget about China and focus on other markets..
China should also make a point of crippling the economies of the other members of the Quad; especially India and Japan for their part in 2020, Australia is merely being used to set an example for the purpose of Europe.
 
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