Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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Given China's economic size, it's virtually impossible for a formal anti-China alliance to form, even among the Western nations or Five Eyes.

Not over Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, SCS, or even Taiwan. Their hyperbolization of the China Threat like China will bulldoze through Asia is just propaganda. Most of Asia and Europe can see right through that Sinophobia BS propaganda, because that only benefits US hegemony, and no one else. No one wants to front line guinea pig and get slaughtered.
I believe many nations, ever since they have mentioned the words America first are secretly wishing for the USA to be taken down a lot of pegs since they are the only nation in the world that is pushing for a fight in the middle of a bloody pandemic. I also believe that almost all nations, even australia with how anti refugees they are, would give them a real help in hand if SHTF since none of them would ever want 100million people from the USA fleeing to other nations if something really went down. We have people believing that an EMP is going to happen in the US which is almost complete nonsense but if that ever happens, well no one is going to be willing to deal with that at all and hence well really who is really loyal enough to foot the bill for all the spending they do if not for the threat of nukes
 

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Not gonna post the text cuz it rly wasn't worth reading.


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Not gonna post the text cuz it rly wasn't worth reading.
Did not read the article, but we can reasonably assume it is just the same as many of the articles we have read lately, about what the new US regime is going to do in regards to their China policy.

That is the difference between Trump and Biden. Trump and his people tried to do something against China and failed. Biden and his people, they have not tried anything and probably will not, Biden is in a state of strategic paralysis with their China strategy (which many commentators note that the United States does not have one). LOL.

Remember when the Russians went into Syria with the air attacks against Syrian forces against Assad, which was coordinated with Iranian help, after those air strikes, the US strategy in Syria was completely paralyzed. The United States could not move forwards or backwards, only fund some random attacks here and there, which had been going on in that region for a thousand years. This does not move the needle anywhere for or against. Now the strategy is everyone just waits. Some wait for the US to leave, the US waits and hopes something develops that is favourable to them.

Seems like that same policy paralysis has arrived in the United States versus China trade war and tech war.

That the Biden administration claims they are doing a review of the US-China relations file, is total bs story. After 4 years of a high profile trade war and tech war published every day in the press, now they claim they have to review everything, when everyone already was tabulating the data on a day to day basis the last four years.

Biden's China policy paralyzed right now. But there is mean trick here, as Biden cannot afford to wait, as China 2025 is racing ahead.

Whatever, them. <rant></rant>

:p
 

localizer

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Did not read the article, but we can reasonably assume it is just the same as many of the articles we have read lately, about what the new US regime is going to do in regards to their China policy.

That is the difference between Trump and Biden. Trump and his people tried to do something against China and failed. Biden and his people, they have not tried anything and probably will not, Biden is in a state of strategic paralysis with their China strategy (which many commentators note that the United States does not have one). LOL.

Remember when the Russians went into Syria with the air attacks against Syrian forces against Assad, which was coordinated with Iranian help, after those air strikes, the US strategy in Syria was completely paralyzed. The United States could not move forwards or backwards, only fund some random attacks here and there, which had been going on in that region for a thousand years. This does not move the needle anywhere for or against. Now the strategy is everyone just waits. Some wait for the US to leave, the US waits and hopes something develops that is favourable to them.

Seems like that same policy paralysis has arrived in the United States versus China trade war and tech war.

That the Biden administration claims they are doing a review of the US-China relations file, is total bs story. After 4 years of a high profile trade war and tech war published every day in the press, now they claim they have to review everything, when everyone already was tabulating the data on a day to day basis the last four years.

Biden's China policy paralyzed right now. But there is mean trick here, as Biden cannot afford to wait, as China 2025 is racing ahead.

Whatever, them. <rant></rant>

:p
Get ready for more butt hurt in the Liberal media is all we can truly expect.

:D


They can fight Chinese but it's ride or die for us.
 

horse

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They can fight Chinese but it's ride or die for us.
Do not know what you mean by your comment, young man, as this is still largely a business question.

Business decisions tend not be particularly dramatic, unless it is Hollywood, then the more drama the better.

China is in a good position as of this moment, in terms of its companies in all fields, and in terms of the health of its economy.

We cannot fully say that for anyone else at the moment. Things will change, but that will take time for the other countries.

For example, Italy never recovered to their pre-2008 economic levels after that financial crisis. This economic crisis of 2020 was even worst than 2008.

We just got to wait and see what happens and develops next for every country in the world.

China is the only major economy that grew last year.

Ride or die? Seems pretty clear the past decade and the next couple of years at least, who is going in one direction, and there will be candidates going in the other direction.

That is why I expect more Liberal media butt hurt in their China reporting.

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Did not read the article, but we can reasonably assume it is just the same as many of the articles we have read lately, about what the new US regime is going to do in regards to their China policy.

That is the difference between Trump and Biden. Trump and his people tried to do something against China and failed. Biden and his people, they have not tried anything and probably will not, Biden is in a state of strategic paralysis with their China strategy (which many commentators note that the United States does not have one). LOL.

Remember when the Russians went into Syria with the air attacks against Syrian forces against Assad, which was coordinated with Iranian help, after those air strikes, the US strategy in Syria was completely paralyzed. The United States could not move forwards or backwards, only fund some random attacks here and there, which had been going on in that region for a thousand years. This does not move the needle anywhere for or against. Now the strategy is everyone just waits. Some wait for the US to leave, the US waits and hopes something develops that is favourable to them.

Seems like that same policy paralysis has arrived in the United States versus China trade war and tech war.

That the Biden administration claims they are doing a review of the US-China relations file, is total bs story. After 4 years of a high profile trade war and tech war published every day in the press, now they claim they have to review everything, when everyone already was tabulating the data on a day to day basis the last four years.

Biden's China policy paralyzed right now. But there is mean trick here, as Biden cannot afford to wait, as China 2025 is racing ahead.

Whatever, them. <rant></rant>

:p

The fundamental problem is that there is very little the USA can actually do to stop China.

China just has to focus on domestic development to raise incomes and develop new technologies, then everything will sort itself out.

China already has an economy which is 20% larger than the USA in terms of PPP which measures actual physical output.
And the National Science Foundation reported to Congress that China likely spends more on R&D as well.

And on these measures China will continue to grow much faster than the US.
The Chinese goal is to double the size of the economy in the next 15 years. That requires 5% growth per year, which looks feasible.
Chinese R&D spending should grow even faster, as per the trend.

Eventually China ends up as a wealthy hi-tech economy which is more than 2x larger than the USA.
Everything else comes easily in such a scenario.
 

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Good call, why would China cooperate in climate change policy with the us that will negatively affected its economic performance, while the us continues to undermine China sovereignity

Give me a break. Australia only exists because it genocided its aboriginal people. The white people of australia aren't really citizens per say... more like illegal terrorists/colonists that need to put down/taken care of. Its long time that australia's demographics be properly restored.
 
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