Hong-Kong Protests

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Yes, all very well about the key mistakes. But your premise and direction leads readers in believing that CCP china is an "Evil regime" with you mentioning Tiananmen square, Xinjian etc.

"The process starts with National security law". No! the process started well before that.

And with quotes like:

"bought fear and anxiety"

"This is the CCP that did not just violently put down separatist tendencies in Tibet and Xinjiang, they are now striving to uproot the root cause of any separatism by engineering a systematic assimilation and death of any separate identity for Tibetans and Uyghurs. The CCP has shown time and time again that they are ruthless"

So I'm a bit confused. You seem to believe all the BS from the western MSM.

The only thing you got right is the mistakes, really the naivety of the rioters, in believing they are more important to the western nations then they actually are. in the end, all western nations did was used them for their own propaganda, and once used, just like a used condom got discarded double quick. and they now they are very much on their own.

The violence and extremism of the riots were features, not bugs. The riots were purposely designed to be intolerable while the rioters were conditions and encountered by western MSM and governments to be unreasonable and intractable in their demands. All of this was done in the backdrop of Trump’s loose trade and tech war with China.

The riots were designed to force Chinese troops out onto the streets to repeat 1989, and the rioters were all supposed to die, live on TV.

The goal was to force the EU to pick sides against China, so that the US can steal EU strength to finally get China to cave.

China saw the trap and danger, and endured the unendurable, and now the US had a big problem with all the still living rioters wanting asylum.

In comes the other bumbling blonde bimbo Boris with his idiotic offer to take ‘millions‘ of rioters from HK all to try to brown nose Trump into giving the UK a sweetheart trade deal.

No trade deal was even close to being reached, and won’t now that Trump is going bye bye.

The only thing saving Boris from an unwanted flood of rioting cockroaches is his own woeful handling of Covid making the UK unattractive to all but the most brainwashed and senior rioters.
 

localizer

Colonel
Registered Member
The violence and extremism of the riots were features, not bugs. The riots were purposely designed to be intolerable while the rioters were conditions and encountered by western MSM and governments to be unreasonable and intractable in their demands. All of this was done in the backdrop of Trump’s loose trade and tech war with China.

The riots were designed to force Chinese troops out onto the streets to repeat 1989, and the rioters were all supposed to die, live on TV.

The goal was to force the EU to pick sides against China, so that the US can steal EU strength to finally get China to cave.

China saw the trap and danger, and endured the unendurable, and not the US had a big problem with all the still living rioters wanting asylum.

In comes the other bumbling blonde bimbo Boris with his idiotic offer to take ‘millions‘ of rioters from HK all to try to brown nose Trump into giving the UK a sweetheart trade deal.

No trade deal was even close to being reached, and won’t now that Trump is going bye bye.

The only thing saving Boris from an unwanted flood of rioting cockroaches is his own woeful handling of Covid making the UK unattractive to all but the most brainwashed and senior rioters.
I get a lot of enjoyment from Western foreign policy failures. The Western hubris and the subsequent defeat is very satisfying.


China must never do military interventions on far away lands. It should only be involved in its borders on land and sea, and only to protect Chinese sovereignty.
 

hashtagpls

Senior Member
Registered Member
“Having sought help from the US consulate, I can now be charged with collusion with foreign forces under the national security law,” Tsang recently said via video link from an undisclosed location.
Is that right?
Seeking asylum in the US Consulate can now be prosecuted under NSL?
 

Litebreeze

Junior Member
Registered Member
The violence and extremism of the riots were features, not bugs. The riots were purposely designed to be intolerable while the rioters were conditions and encountered by western MSM and governments to be unreasonable and intractable in their demands. All of this was done in the backdrop of Trump’s loose trade and tech war with China.

The riots were designed to force Chinese troops out onto the streets to repeat 1989, and the rioters were all supposed to die, live on TV.
Don't forget those rioters' leaders were trained with real terrorists in Oslo Freedom Foundation, alongside with the white helmets, alqaeda etc with their playbook.

The goal was to force the EU to pick sides against China, so that the US can steal EU strength to finally get China to cave.
Most vicious goal is to justify a huge international sanction towards China to harm the BRI and China economy. "International" of course means the US and it's vassal states. There was no coincidences with the rioters were using TianAnMen Square riot as theme, that is exactly what they wanted, TianAnMen2.0.
China saw the trap and danger, and endured the unendurable, and now the US had a big problem with all the still living rioters wanting asylum.

In comes the other bumbling blonde bimbo Boris with his idiotic offer to take ‘millions‘ of rioters from HK all to try to brown nose Trump into giving the UK a sweetheart trade deal.

No trade deal was even close to being reached, and won’t now that Trump is going bye bye.
Recalling when the trade deal was still in negotiation, the US side kept throwing more and more unreasonable requests to the table. When the China's side rejected the unreasonable requests, one of the the US team said something like this, iirc, " show them the war plan!".

That's prior to HK riot, now we can see clearly what they meant by "show them the war plan!"
The only thing saving Boris from an unwanted flood of rioting cockroaches is his own woeful handling of Covid making the UK unattractive to all but the most brainwashed and senior rioters.
Have no wonder why those vassal countries will try to find reasons to reject those HK rioters, they know exactly how those rioters were trained and for what purpose. As tools for regime change, to cause damage to anyone's countries, who would want to have them in their countries. The masterminds planned to see those rioters die in the front line, and then declare them as martyrs. Can't imagine how western MSM will blow this matter to the sky.

Note:
Some reports done by some investigative reporters, notice they did the reports while the HK riot was still ongoing. They already mentioned involvement of NED, of which only recently admitted their involvement.
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antiterror13

Brigadier
Haven't done yet in HK, now Jimmy Lai has new problem in US. At 73yo, not hard to see this guy will rot in jail.

".. was also involved in a scandal involving fraud campaign to smear Biden during the U.S. presidential election."​
"Lai later admitted that his ex-assistant Mark Simon was involved, and the money used for the campaign was provided by Lai’s company. "​
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Could Trump pardon him and he would be free in HK and move to the US ? :p
 

Litebreeze

Junior Member
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hahaha, it seems you didn't sense the sarcasm here ;)
Ok you've got me LOL.

But the US really has this so-called long arm jurisdiction. Recalling the case of Alstom. The accusation was corruption/bribery in Indonesia's power plant bid. Alstom's CEO is a French, case happened in Indonesia, and that CEO was caught somewhere in South America. And then sentenced in the US.
 

Litebreeze

Junior Member
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This old man and his gang still calling themselves as "pro democracy", while their actual activity are pro-secession, pro treason, pro riot, pro damaging the people livelihood, pro harming people and properties. Claiming as such,

"Beijing is trying to crack down fully on dissent within Hong Kong's government system, he said, so leaders would aim to "unseat the whole pro-democracy camp to be on the safe side."​

He couldn't even differ between secession and opposition.

"...if authorities moved to unseat pro-democracy district councilors, "it will only show the regime cannot tolerate any opposition voices."​
Opposition criticizes , while secessionist breaks the country. He and his gang want to break the country which is what secessionists do, but claiming it criticism.
""As the government is trying its best to crack down on dissent," Yuen added, it would be "harder and harder" to offer criticism through the legislative and district councils."​
Is it really this much?
"..a significant number of pro-democracy councilors, who control 17 of 18 district councils, could be in danger of being disqualified, it is being claimed."​
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Why would the gov pays to have people who don't serve the people, no loyalty to the people, but huge loyalty to foreign countries?

If those people have more loyalty to foreign countries, isn't it better they just simply move to those countries of their choice where they put their loyalty onto?
 

Litebreeze

Junior Member
Registered Member
Finally a better news, a lawmaker with better view.

"Ho and the pro-establishment camp have said magistrates were imposing sentences based on different standards in unrest cases, which Ho said was "highly undesirable."​
Ho said he understands the pressure on magistrates, but emphasized it would be beneficial to have a sentencing committee to give good guidelines to magistrates and judges dealing with unrest cases.​
But, caning? LOL..

"The 2021 working plan of IPLSA also called upon the reintroduction of Singaporean-style caning to Hong Kong."​
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