Ladakh Flash Point

[vincent]

I agree 5 planes are not going to make a difference in the overall scheme of things, but I was thinking of the general discussion. Most of the comments would lead one to believe it would be an easy and assured victory for the PLA, but a war in a complex terrain/environment would not as predictable as for example the invasion of Iraq. You can compare system by system, but at the end of the day you have to physically evict people. During the Balkan conflict, NATO had total air superiority and dropped loads of bombs. As I recall, the ground forces stayed pretty much intact. I don't know if the Indian have the stuff PLA displayed in the Korean War, but it's an example of an unexpected outcome by logic displayed here.

NATO couldn’t cut off Serbian forces supply lines. PLAAF and PLAGF can cut off Indian supply lines

 

[reservior dogs]

I agree 5 planes are not going to make a difference in the overall scheme of things, but I was thinking of the general discussion. Most of the comments would lead one to believe it would be an easy and assured victory for the PLA, but a war in a complex terrain/environment would not as predictable as for example the invasion of Iraq. You can compare system by system, but at the end of the day you have to physically evict people. During the Balkan conflict, NATO had total air superiority and dropped loads of bombs. As I recall, the ground forces stayed pretty much intact. I don't know if the Indian have the stuff PLA displayed in the Korean War, but it's an example of an unexpected outcome by logic displayed here.

There is a big difference between Balkan and Ladah. NATO does not want to put boots on the ground. There is a limit on what could be achieved with air power alone. That is not a problem with China.

 

[j17wang]

lol if you guys saw Indians spamming the r/militaryporn subreddit. I feel pity to the indian users who wants validation and assurance that they belong with west and western people love indian 3rd grade shit.

well if you go to the firearm blog, you will find that while most of the people there (90% republican Americans) are openly hostile to china, they are also dismissive that india can actually do anything against china, based on their track record.

 

[j17wang]

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who knows if this bullshit will hold, but at least this should buy 2-3 weeks before shit flares again. This is definitely the highest ranked "de-escalation" attempt so far, foreign minister level is essentially the same thing as Xi-Modi in the era of COVID-19. hopefully india can come to its senses and try to fight covid instead, china could also help provide covid assistance.

 

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I think we need to free south tibet and rest of ladakh, they got our people under constant discrimination

 

[coolieno99]

... I don't think a potential border skirmish will escalate to the point where both countries are lobbing missiles at each other's cities. But the Chinese government and its people need to understand that fighting India in 2020 would not be like 1962.

You are right. Back in 1962, China did not have an Air Force. India did have an Air Force and chose not to use it. One of the biggest tactical blunder in history. Now China has a very good Air Force, and most likely will use it in the next conflict. Since China has so many new weapons, now it's the time to test them in live fire scenario.

 

[Figaro]

You are right. Back in 1962, China did not have an Air Force. India did have an Air Force and chose not to use it. One of the biggest tactical blunder in history. Now China has a very good Air Force, and most likely will use it in the next conflict. Since China has so many new weapons, now it's the time to test them in live fire scenario.

I wouldn't say China had no air force in 1962. Even in the Korean War, the PLAAF performed pretty decently, especially compared to their North Korean counterparts, in places like Mig Alley. Also don't forget the Chinese helped train many Vietnamese pilots during the Vietnam War. I wouldn't say the Indian air force in 1962 was much superior to the Chinese one at all ... if anything Chinese pilots likely had much more experience than them due to the Korean and Taiwan Strait conflicts. It was only in the late 60s that the Chinese air force ended up falling behind considerably, all the way until the 80s era.

 

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I think we need to free south tibet and rest of ladakh, they got our people under constant discrimination

Can't even see the legend and totally politically provocative off-topic.

 

[Amar]

CCP's official word on August and September clashes saying no Indians died then from direct confrontations, then it's quite likely no one was killed. They haven't been wrong before or issued statements that were later proven false. This begs the question what the two Tibetan SFFs were actually killed from. If the landmine story is true, who's landmine? If PLA's how is it not a part of this recent clash (assuming anything happened).

Too much smoke here and noise from Indian media and the usual semi-reliable sources. Maybe no fatalities and it was a lot of troop movement.

What is the Latest in the latest Minister's Meeting?
Reports are coming that Chinese side has gone back on the Joint statement, saying that waa only a Paper trash on the table. Why was this statement issued ? Attaching the Chinese version of statement.

 

[ougoah]

What is the Latest in the latest Minister's Meeting?
Reports are coming that Chinese side has gone back on the Joint statement, saying that waa only a Paper trash on the table. Why was this statement issued ? Attaching the Chinese version of statement.

Please post the source of these two captures and the context if possible. These photos have no timestamp and no authority shown.

Also your whole post makes no grammatical sense. It is impossible to interpret what you are even saying here. Please repost in coherent English. I can't even be bothered deciphering what your meaning here is.

The highest level meetings are currently taking place between the two sides. No clear indication what the outcomes will be and even then, we'll need to wait weeks or months to get a clearer picture of what the truth is if it isn't immediately obvious.