Hong-Kong Protests

AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

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supersnoop said:
Joe Tsai (Part owner of Alibaba, Owner of Brooklyn Nets), born in Taiwan, holds Canadian citizenship made a comment.
He said (paraphrasing) separatist notions are a red line to most Chinese.

Per a Bloomberg article
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Ironic, freedom of speech is only recognized when it's speech that you agree with.
The article also noted the many people who accuse him of being a CCP shill. If think his response reflects many of the same feelings here.





I'm sure people are still calling him wumao anyway. Must have written a lot of posts for enough money to buy a New York pro-sports team.
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The discussion was if any in the NBA were regretting supporting Hong Kongers because of Hong Kongers' racism being exposed over George Floyd and Black Lives Matter. If you were talking about "you" as in me... I never brought up anything about freedom speech. Why would Joe Tsai regret anything when he was playing the middle man between the NBA and China. Morey has the right to say it and China has the right to not let the NBA make money off the Chinese.
 
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Mr T

Mr T

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localizer said:
Poor kid trying to defend his country from foreign back terrorists.
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Yes, I'm sure people standing around and chanting slogans are a real threat to Chinese security.

Punks like this kid don't take on the protesters with home-made equipment who are fighting with the police. They pick on unarmed citizens who aren't a threat. It's almost certainly going to be similar to Tony Chun , where the guy took a meat clever to one of the Lennon Walls and decided to attack anyone he saw there and didn't like the look of. None of his victims was a threat to anyone.

If you want to know why there is criticism of people who slavishly follow the CCP's line over Hong Kong, it's comments like yours that automatically defend anyone who commits violence against opponents of the CCP irrespective of the situation.
 
manqiangrexue

manqiangrexue

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Mr T said:
Punks like this kid don't take on the protesters with home-made equipment who are fighting with the police. They pick on unarmed citizens who aren't a threat. It's almost certainly going to be similar to Tony Chun , where the guy took a meat clever to one of the Lennon Walls and decided to attack anyone he saw there and didn't like the look of. None of his victims was a threat to anyone.
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Attacking unarmed citizens, like street sweepers and taxi drivers, right? Perhaps it was an artistic piece for people like you to see what the rioting terrorists routinely did. But his piece was not perfect; he had to do it himself instead of attacking lone people while hiding amongst his 50 cowardly accomplices.
Mr T said:
If you want to know why there is criticism of people who slavishly follow the CCP's line over Hong Kong, it's comments like yours that automatically defend anyone who commits violence against opponents of the CCP irrespective of the situation.
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Such irony, from someone who slavishly digs out anything that can be anti-CCP. What's the matter, months of cockroaches committing domestic terrorism on every civilian who doesn't agree with them and this guy is the one you want to point out? LOL China haters are really the worst at debate, comically bad LOL
 
Mr T

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China has revealed its controversial plans for Hong Kong, including a special bureau to investigate crimes considered a threat to national security and judges appointed by the pro-Beijing government.

Details of the proposed law, which has prompted protests in Hong Kong, were revealed for the first time after China's top legislative body, the National People's Congress Standing Committee, concluded its three-day meeting on laws on Saturday afternoon.

State news agency Xinhua reported details of the new national security law which has been strongly criticised as undermining the semi-autonomous territory's legal and political institutions, with the UK saying it breaches the handover agreement for Hong Kong to have control of its own laws for 50 years from 1997.
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So Beijing will designate cases as being about "national security" and Beijing the Chief Executive can select the judges to preside over those cases.

Honestly, this is becoming some sort of parody. It's bad enough that Beijing is forcing through national security legislation before an important HK election, but it's now subverting the judicial system by having the Executive select judges for trials. The key principle of judicial independence is that only the court selects judges for a trial. I know that in mainland China the courts are subservient to the CCP, but Hong Kong still has the veneer of rule of law. This new legislation blows that idea out of the water.
 
manqiangrexue

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So Beijing will designate cases as being about "national security" and Beijing the Chief Executive can select the judges to preside over those cases.

Honestly, this is becoming some sort of parody. It's bad enough that Beijing is forcing through national security legislation before an important HK election, but it's now subverting the judicial system by having the Executive select judges for trials. The key principle of judicial independence is that only the court selects judges for a trial. I know that in mainland China the courts are subservient to the CCP, but Hong Kong still has the veneer of rule of law. This new legislation blows that idea out of the water.
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If all those principles you cited resulted in the domestic terrorism that Hong Kong experienced, then it's definitely long overdue that they are all at an end.
 
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