Military situation in the sino-indian border

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tidalwave

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Long term goal is self sufficient at least 80 percent on all things. It's not closing that Gap yet. In certain areas China self sufficiency is only 15 to 20 percent.

Trade surplus is nothing to be proud of.
 

tidalwave

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I need to see a source for your 80%, 15%, 20% numbers. It looks like you pulled these numbers out of your ass. Secondly, which countries are the most "self-sufficient" and what are their numbers? What's the golden standard? Need sources.

Trade surplus means that others need more from you than you need from them. What do you think is worthy of pride? Trade deficit? Trump looks real happy and proud of his LOL

And finally, why did you bring this shit up and what does it have to do with the current situation on the Sino-Indian border?
I am telling this from my industrial experiences. Take it or leave it if you are unhappy.

By the way, China lacks behind India in producing generic drugs that go to alot of countries. Painkiller, Viagra, antibiotics..Big big industry. China mostly doing herbal medicines but those not really being used in another countries. This is bigger than arms industry.

China needs to catch up to India on this.
Right now, China food and drugs safety reputation have issues.

I tell you what. Why trade surplus is nothing to be proud of and less important than self sufficiency. Trade surplus means you depending on exports and people can squeeze you because they know you depending on it. They will arm twisting you to do things that are not pleasant to you.
 
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manqiangrexue

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I am telling this from my industrial experiences. Take it or leave it if you are unhappy.

By the way, China lacks behind India in producing generic drugs that go to alot of countries. Painkiller, Viagra, antibiotics..Big big industry. China mostly doing herbal medicines but those not really being used in another countries. This is bigger than arms industry.

China needs to catch up to India on this.
LOLOL What?? Your "industrial experiences"? That's your "source" for making up numbers? Please, no unsubstantiated claims. LOL

What does that and India making drugs have to do with this conversation?

Let me guess; all your "points" on the Sino-Indian border situation fell through so now you're just saying random things hoping to end the conversation with you being right on something, right?
 

tidalwave

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LOLOL What?? Your "industrial experiences"? That's your "source" for making up numbers? Please, no unsubstantiated claims. LOL

What does that and India making drugs have to do with this conversation?

Let me guess; all your "points" on the Sino-Indian border situation fell through so now you're just saying random things hoping to end the conversation with you being right on something, right?
You are pretty hopeless.

Anyway, I am telling you India having it's confidence because it know it can interrupt China supply and trade line at Indian ocean. It's knows China cannot last very long like that.

Fighting in the mountains and land is not as important than the sea even if China having advantage there.

China has more missiles and rockets.but what about after firing? It can't possibly kill all indian warships, and they can interrupt China supply line.
 

tidalwave

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My take is, if China wants to fight a war with India it has to think big and strategically.

It has to have bases at Indian ocean.
That mean land invasion and wrestle Andaman and nichobar island from India.

Fighting at Himalayan mountain is useless.
Have to think strategically.
 

manqiangrexue

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You are pretty hopeless.

Anyway, I am telling you India having it's confidence because it know it can interrupt China supply and trade line at Indian ocean. It's knows China cannot last very long like that.

Fighting in the mountains and land is not as important than the sea even if China having advantage there.

China has more missiles and rockets.but what about after firing? It can't possibly kill all indian warships, and they can interrupt China supply line.
I'm hopeless cus you can't stay on topic? LOL Good that you're finally back! If I hadn't checked you, your net post was probably gonna be about how India leads the world in IRS phone scams LOL.

But unfortunately you're wrong again. Fighting on the mountains and land means inflicting losses and taking land. This is what it's all about.

Your last paragraph is a joke, right? How many missiles and rockets does China have? How many warships does India have? How long does it take to make more missiles? How long does it take to make more warships? Use your "brain"! LOL China can absolutely sink the entire Indian navy (not that many ships; take a look at their inventory) if they run out into the open and try to interrupt Chinese shipping lanes. Indian ships can all be hunted down by both satellites and radar unless they hide in a covered port in India somewhere (which is where the survivors will all scurry off to when they start taking losses so fast they can't keep track and need to do anything to stop losing ships). They might eat a DF-26 to the head as soon as they leave port LOL.

Besides, another thing you have confused is that it is not China that won't last long with its Indian Ocean trade routes disrupted; it is India that can't last long wile taking a daily pounding from Chinese forces.
 
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tidalwave

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I'm hopeless cus you can't stay on topic? LOL Good that you're finally back! If I hadn't checked you, your net post was probably gonna be about how India leads the world in IRS phone scams LOL.

But unfortunately you're wrong again. Fighting on the mountains and land means inflicting losses and taking land. This is what it's all about.

Your last paragraph is a joke, right? How many missiles and rockets does China have? How many warships does India have? How long does it take to make more missiles? How long does it take to make more warships? Use your "brain"! LOL China can absolutely sink the entire Indian navy (not that many ships; take a look at their inventory) if they run out into the open and try to interrupt Chinese shipping lanes. Indian ships can all be hunted down by both satellites and radar unless they hide in a covered port in India somewhere (which is where the survivors will all scurry off to when they start taking losses so fast they can't keep track and need to do anything to stop losing ships). They might eat a DF-26 to the head as soon as they leave port LOL.

Besides, another thing you have confused is that it is not China that won't last long with its Indian Ocean trade routes disrupted; it is India that can't last long wile taking a daily pounding from Chinese forces.
You getting too excited. Calm down boy.

You making pompous assumption a few PLA ships can take care indian carrier strike group.

And China doesn't have the logistics support to fire any ASBM at Indian ocean

Indian ocean is India home turf just like South China Sea is China home turf. They don't need war ships. They can have air fighters carrying antiship missiles or even obsolete subs can disrupt shipping lanes. I doubt China ability to hunt down subs.

Fighting at land means stalemale.

If you in charge of China military, China would lose. Making way too many assumptions, that's fatal.
 
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manqiangrexue

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You getting too excited. Calm down boy.


Indian ocean is India home turf just like South China Sea is China home turf. They don't need war ships. They can have air fighters carrying antiship missiles or even obsolete subs can disrupt shipping lanes. I doubt China ability to hunt down subs.

Fighting at land means stalemale.
Sorry, that's what I sound like when talking to people with low IQ who can't grasp concepts.

Why does fighting at land mean stalemate when you have a superior air force, rocket force, and army? I think you're confused in that you think that India can act like it's all-out war and target Chinese merchant ships but China must be confined to fighting just for a little strip of land. You're mistaken. If India makes it all out-war, Chinese forces will advance on Delhi, destroying everything military that they encounter in their paths. Hell, if India wants to target Chinese merchant ships, China can launch on all Indian ships too. With all Indian naval ships destroyed, airbases/aircraft bombed by ballistic missiles/Chinese airstrikes, all MKI shot down/no runway to take off, blown up in their hangars, merchant ships too scare to leave port, what do they have left but surrender or nuclear option (which they won't win either)? That's what all-out war with China would be like for India and it would get there very quickly as compared to 1962. It will take much much longer to starve Chinese trade to a point of severity than it takes to beat India into directly surrendering while simultaneously choking up their water supply. Chinese merch ships can fly different flags and sail different routes in the mean time. It won't be fun but you avoid war-zones when you need to conduct business.

Unless you think that they don't care; they can just watch their country burn as a few little F-U subs keep lurking torpedoing a Chinese merchant ship occasionally until they run out of ammo and have no not-on-fire home bases to reload at or they happen to be caught during one of their stunts and end up killed by a Chinese depth charge/torpedo.

Rule of thumb, two big countries generally do not fight directly. Have to find Proxy fighters

I applaud you on your first non-stupid, non-off topic comment. That said, duh! But this conversation is about why India would be smart to back off when tensions on the Korean peninsula die down and China can turn its attention to India. It's cus they don't want things to escalate to what I said. And even if they don't back off immediately and end up a bit bloodied in a small conflict, they still won't escalate it into a full war by attacking Chinese ships because once again, they just can't win. And that's why when China is ready to deal with this, India won't escalate, must find reason to retreat or end up suffering a small loss and non of this blow-up-all-your-ships shit will happen.
 
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