TerraN_EmpirE
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No the current 200 with mk1 EOTS. Where if the units were needing to be in combat they would have Mk2 EOTS
F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread
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Jura The idiot
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now I see you're setup is too perfect to argue against
Allow me to bounce on it
F-15C have now a new pod for data link with F-22 but this pod have also a FLIR as the new for the F-18 eventualy same ?
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
yes It's the Same IRST21 FLIR in what is called the Legion pod.It's been tested on F16, F/A18 and F15C and is used on export F15E.
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probably a repost
Lockheed prepping Advanced EOTS and Legion Pod for flight tests
- 07 MARCH, 2016
- SOURCE: FLIGHTGLOBAL.COM
- BY: JAMES DREW
- ORLANDO
Lockheed Martin is assembling a prototype of its "advanced" electro-optical targeting system (EOTS) that is proposed to replace the baseline version on the F-35 fleet.
The company will complete design and construction of the next evolution of the air-to-air and air-to-ground targeting device this year for carriage on a surrogate Sabreliner test aircraft.
Separately, Lockheed will fly the Legion infrared search-and-track (IRST) pod on a Boeing F-15C in the coming months as the US Air Force looks to fill a long-standing "capability gap” related to passive infrared detection of airborne threats.
Using the same IRST21 infrared receiver that is currently in low-rate initial production for the US Navy's F/A-18E/F Super Hornet fleet, the Legion pod has already been carried on an F-16, and will go up against Northrop Grumman’s OpenPod IRST system in a future competition.
Regarding “Advanced EOTS”, Lockheed director of business development for missiles and fire control Don Bolling says the proposed multispectral sensor will allow Lightning II operators to detect air and ground targets with greater clarity and at longer ranges, via short-wave infrared, high-definition television, infrared marker and image detector resolution enhancements.
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Lockheed recently delivered the 200th EOTS sensor, which has been outpaced technologically by Lockheed’s Sniper and Northrop Grumman/Rafael’s Litening targeting pod systems because of delays in fielding, and consequently improving, the F-35. The baseline EOTS hasn't been used in combat yet and is already outdated.
Lockheed’s fire control business has low-rate production contracts for 367 F-35 targeting systems, and is producing them at a rate of six per month, company officials say. Current F-35 plans call for more than 3,000 EOTS sensors through 2030 and production should scale up to one EOTS per business day by 2020.
Bolling told reporters following an EOTS factory tour in Orlando, Florida on 24 February that the next iteration will be cut into the same production line, if chosen by F-35 customers. Advanced EOTS promises better performance “than any pod currently [fielded] or currently envisioned”, he claims.
“By the end of the year, we’ll have a prototype system completed and then hopefully, in the new year, we’ll have identified a path to fly it on a surrogate platform and be able to show that high-fidelity imagery,” Bolling says.
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Lockheed announced the new targeting sensor in 2015 and hopes the sensor upgrade will be included on a list of new capabilities being considered by the F-35 Joint Programme Office for the Block 4 project, which starts in 2019.
Advanced EOTS uses high operating temperature mid-wave infrared or “hot mid-wave” technology that has been matured under a US government-sponsored Vital Infrared Sensor Technology Acceleration (VISTA) programme. The technology boosts sensor performance and reliability by replacing expensive “cryocoolers” – according to Lockheed.
The government might compete any EOTS improvement, but Lockheed thinks any competitor "would have a significantly difficult time and would be risked-up".
Legion Pod
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On Legion Pod, Lockheed expects the air force to announce an acquisition strategy in the coming months, pending a report to Congress on its IRST requirements that was due on 1 March.
The air force still hasn’t decided if it wants extra space, weight, power and cooling for radios in the 40cm (16in) pod for communication between various fighter types or to seek a dedicated IRST sensor pod.
“When the acquisition comes out, it will probably be just an IRST system but with volume in there for other payloads, whether that’s radios or other sensors,” says Bolling.
IRST is seen as complementary detection option to radar for finding and targeting airborne threats, since radar emissions can be detected and countered by electronic jamming. “This is out-of-band,” Bolling says of IRST. “They don’t see they’re being detected and tracked."
Interesting conversation gentlemen, but the pod is in very early development as well, and is billed as a complementary system to already outstanding radar onboard as the primary targeting system. The f-35 is flying with the Mk-1 EOTAS which is still very good, but not as capable as the pod will be? The F-35's MK-2 will be far superior to either!
He respected the capabilities of the cavalry, but wasn't afraid of them. His own men however, well he got to see them up close and personal! Some men you send into Battle, others you unleash and stand well back!What, Napoleon's famous French cavalry doesn't scare the Duke of Wellington?
Allow me to bounce on it
F-15C have now a new pod for data link with F-22 but this pod have also a FLIR as the new for the F-18 eventualy same ?
Let me jump in here Gentlemen, the F-22 wrote the book on situational awareness and stealthy communictation with-out IRST, because IRST does have limitations. The F-35 has upped the situational awareness game to a 20 to 1 kill ration at its first Red Flag, with the MK-1 IRST/ EOTAS combo, remember IRST is "complimentary" that's the same gambit Boeing is using to try to convince everyone one to buy the outdated F-18 instead of the game-changing F-35.
So while IRST is very helpful at times, at other times it isn't, the F-35 relies on a combination of all of the above, to achieve the most effective situational awareness on the planet. The ONLY thing it may not find are other F-35s, F-22s, and the B-2,,, all this hand wringing over whether or not L/O is a viable strategy are old lady panic attacks. The F-35 WILL FIND YOU and KILL YOU!
Neither the Russians or the Chinese are there yet, they will die like everyone else if they go head to head with F-35! end of story!
L/O, and sensory Fusion will win every time, the only exception would be a visual with a gun, and that's very unlikely. Neither the T-50 nor the J-20 are operational in the sense that the F-35 is armed and dangerous this morning! Flanker's, J-10's, Typhoons, Rafale, and the SU-35, supposedly stealthy F-18s, F-15s, are fish bait!
Talk, Talk, Talk, ask Obama how that worked in the the Ukraine, Mideast, and SCS???
Jura The idiot
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Heh! Heh! Heh! no not mistaken, just understating the actual numbers to be on very solid ground in my very solid position! Lots of folks, even Boeing are doing lots and lots of talking about how bad the F-35 is, while trying to capitalize on that??
Boeing had EVERY OPPORTUNITY to be here in the KATBIRD SEAT, but came up with the poor little X-32! Now they want to build a complimentary "stealthy?" really F-18??? nah, they need to get on with their 6 Gen work if they want to have prayer to play on that team?
The X-32 looked like a loser, and was a loser, the F-35 is a BAD BOY, he will kick axx all over the place, if we were talking 5 to 1, that would be a winner, or 10 to 1, that would be Champion of the World! The best airplane, by the best airplane company came out numero uno! and it is a killer, don't mess wit it!
Oh, and Boeing, they are a subcontractor on the F-35 and making lots of money! So no need to feel sorry for Boeing!