"bring it on Dude!" LOL, I hope they do roll some F-35s into Europe/Syria just for fun, maybe the should visit Poland??
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"bring it on Dude!" LOL, I hope they do roll some F-35s into Europe/Syria just for fun, maybe the should visit Poland??
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That's the Obama legacy, tell people what they want to hear, in order to get them to do what you want them to do?? then, when people do as you ask, "stick it to em". Typical liberal outfit, their word meant nothing?? remember 95% of Americans will get a "tax cut"??
Jura The idiot
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Jura The idiot
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Tuesday at 9:04 AM
Let’s Talk About Those F-35 Kill Ratio Reports From Red Flag
15 kills per loss sounds impressive, but there’s always more to the story.
so 15:1 scripted or not?
Let’s Talk About Those F-35 Kill Ratio Reports From Red Flag
15 kills per loss sounds impressive, but there’s always more to the story.
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Jura The idiot
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I had see and yet before thinking generous with old F-16 piloted by very good drivers but to LR A2A combat experience of pilot is less important mainly a matter of weapons and sensors, detection.
And the new pilots rookie raised with PS surely love their F-35 with her large screen almost a real game USAF is Santa which have buy a nice gift
Despite it F-16 is not a Mig-21 or a J-7 outdated but don' t provide an adversary of last generation.
But despite it he have do good job and we envisaged a kill ratio to minimum 5 vs 1 remains very comfortable.
Seems interesting USAF have at less a flight, 6, F-35s in an Agressor Sqn but historically never don't have used her more recent fighters in these units.
And the new pilots rookie raised with PS surely love their F-35 with her large screen almost a real game USAF is Santa which have buy a nice gift
Despite it F-16 is not a Mig-21 or a J-7 outdated but don' t provide an adversary of last generation.
But despite it he have do good job and we envisaged a kill ratio to minimum 5 vs 1 remains very comfortable.
Seems interesting USAF have at less a flight, 6, F-35s in an Agressor Sqn but historically never don't have used her more recent fighters in these units.
Jura The idiot
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Tuesday at 9:14 AM
Australian Military News, Reports, Data, etc.
what's related which is it'll be F-35 plus Growler! https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/au...s-reports-data-etc.t5727/page-129#post-438170
JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER TO MAKE AUSTRALIAN DEBUT AT THE AUSTRALIAN INTERNATIONAL AIR SHOW
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Australian Military News, Reports, Data, etc.
what's related which is it'll be F-35 plus Growler! https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/au...s-reports-data-etc.t5727/page-129#post-438170
JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER TO MAKE AUSTRALIAN DEBUT AT THE AUSTRALIAN INTERNATIONAL AIR SHOW
F-35 cost target impossible without block buy, Lockheed says
block buy, Lockheed says
A hand-shake agreement with US government negotiators slashes the cost of each F-35A ordered in the latest annual lot to $94.6 million, but the Lockheed Martin programme’s goal to drop the price to $85 million in three years is in jeopardy unless the Defense department invokes a package of special acquisition tools, says Lockheed chief financial officer Bruce Tanner.
The F-35 joint programme office and Lockheed have said for years that a long-sought, three-year block buy that would begin in FY2018 would be a key ingredient in reaching the $85 million unit recurring flyaway cost target a year later.
In remarks on 8 February at the Cowen Aerospace/Defense and Industrials Conference, Tanner took that approach a step further, saying the $85 million price target, including the Pratt & Whitney engine, is now impossible to achieve in the absence of one or some combination of another round of Blueprint for Affordability cost reductions in the manufacturing system, a block buy and an economic ordering quantity purchase.
“As we look at it now,” Tanner says, “one of those or combination of those are required to get to the $85 million.”
Since 2014, Lockheed has unveiled two rounds of Blueprint for Affordability initiatives with pledged investments of up to $340 million to lower unit recurring flyaway costs.
Since the F-35 remains in the low-rate initial production through FY2019, the programme is legally prohibited from using a multi-year procurement authority, which allows US government agencies to award a single contract spanning multiple years rather than an annual lots. Instead, the F-35 has pursued approval of a “block buy”, which seeks bulk discounts by offering industry an upfront commitment of purchases over multiple years, but usually without cancellation fees.
Tanner’s remarks come less than a week after the F-35 programme announced reaching a preliminary agreement on the 10th lot of low-rate initial production. The Lot 10 deal was originally scheduled to be awarded in FY2016, which ended on 30 September. But negotiations stalled until December, when then-president-elect Donald Trump personally intervened, threatening to switch orders for the F-35 to the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet unless Lockheed dramatically lowered prices.
On 3 February, the White House announced a “hand-shake” deal with Lockheed, claiming a $728 million savings. That included a $696.4 million savings by comparing the unit recurring flyaway costs of the 90 F-35s acquired in Lot 10 with the 57 jets purchased in Lot 9. The remaining $33.6 million in savings came from ancillary and support equipment, such as spares, according to Lockheed.
Lockheed, however, remains unsatisfied with the pricing of F-35s in Lot 9, which the JPO imposed unilaterally last November after negotiations dragged on for more than a year, Tanner says. Lockheed reserves the right to appeal the Lot 9 prices in the US Court of Federal Claims, unless the JPO agrees to unspecified “considerations”, he adds.
Meanwhile, Lockheed has already started negotiations with the JPO over the Lot 11 contract, which is expected to lead to a signed contract by the end of the year, Tanner says.
“We’d like to think we could [Lot] 11 done in a sooner fashion than we’ve done it previously,” he says.
block buy, Lockheed says
A hand-shake agreement with US government negotiators slashes the cost of each F-35A ordered in the latest annual lot to $94.6 million, but the Lockheed Martin programme’s goal to drop the price to $85 million in three years is in jeopardy unless the Defense department invokes a package of special acquisition tools, says Lockheed chief financial officer Bruce Tanner.
The F-35 joint programme office and Lockheed have said for years that a long-sought, three-year block buy that would begin in FY2018 would be a key ingredient in reaching the $85 million unit recurring flyaway cost target a year later.
In remarks on 8 February at the Cowen Aerospace/Defense and Industrials Conference, Tanner took that approach a step further, saying the $85 million price target, including the Pratt & Whitney engine, is now impossible to achieve in the absence of one or some combination of another round of Blueprint for Affordability cost reductions in the manufacturing system, a block buy and an economic ordering quantity purchase.
“As we look at it now,” Tanner says, “one of those or combination of those are required to get to the $85 million.”
Since 2014, Lockheed has unveiled two rounds of Blueprint for Affordability initiatives with pledged investments of up to $340 million to lower unit recurring flyaway costs.
Since the F-35 remains in the low-rate initial production through FY2019, the programme is legally prohibited from using a multi-year procurement authority, which allows US government agencies to award a single contract spanning multiple years rather than an annual lots. Instead, the F-35 has pursued approval of a “block buy”, which seeks bulk discounts by offering industry an upfront commitment of purchases over multiple years, but usually without cancellation fees.
Tanner’s remarks come less than a week after the F-35 programme announced reaching a preliminary agreement on the 10th lot of low-rate initial production. The Lot 10 deal was originally scheduled to be awarded in FY2016, which ended on 30 September. But negotiations stalled until December, when then-president-elect Donald Trump personally intervened, threatening to switch orders for the F-35 to the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet unless Lockheed dramatically lowered prices.
On 3 February, the White House announced a “hand-shake” deal with Lockheed, claiming a $728 million savings. That included a $696.4 million savings by comparing the unit recurring flyaway costs of the 90 F-35s acquired in Lot 10 with the 57 jets purchased in Lot 9. The remaining $33.6 million in savings came from ancillary and support equipment, such as spares, according to Lockheed.
Lockheed, however, remains unsatisfied with the pricing of F-35s in Lot 9, which the JPO imposed unilaterally last November after negotiations dragged on for more than a year, Tanner says. Lockheed reserves the right to appeal the Lot 9 prices in the US Court of Federal Claims, unless the JPO agrees to unspecified “considerations”, he adds.
Meanwhile, Lockheed has already started negotiations with the JPO over the Lot 11 contract, which is expected to lead to a signed contract by the end of the year, Tanner says.
“We’d like to think we could [Lot] 11 done in a sooner fashion than we’ve done it previously,” he says.