Indian Military News, Reports, Data, etc.

aksha

Captain
i salute this man ,may god watch over his soul and his family.RIP
14r2Fam.jpg

Vizag Naval mishap: Missing officer gave away life vest to a scientist
Visakhapatnam: Weapon’s officer of the Naval Armament Inspection Office of Eastern Naval Command (ENC) attached to NSTL, Lt Commander Y. Shishir Kumar, 32, who was on board the sunken TRV and who is still missing, had offered his life vest to an NSTL scientist as part of his duty as a defence personnel: civilians first. He was deployed by ENC to inspect the testing of torpedoes developed by NSTL. On Friday, NSTL director C.D. Mall-eswar visited Shishir’s home to meet his family.

The need for Lt Commander Y. Shishir Kumar, weapon’s officer of the National Armament Inspection Office of Eastern Naval Command (ENC), to offer his life vest to another person has raised questions regarding the availability of these vests on the Torpedo Recovery Vehicle (TRV) and whether there were enough preparations in place on the vessel to handle so many persons.

Ms Rohini Kumar, the wife of Shishir has been working in a public sector bank in Vizag for more than two years and Shishir had shifted to Vizag from a defence organisation at Sunabeda in Odisha only two months ago on a transfer to join his family.“He is very good at swimming and he had offered his vest to one of the NSTL staff as he knows that as a defence personnel, it should be ‘civilians first’. He truly lived up to his duty. This was revealed by one of the NSTL staff who were rescued. Shishir saw that NSTL staff were rescued first. Shishir is a brave man. We wish and hope he comes back,” a colleague of Shishir told this correspondent.

“I know Shishir since some years. He is a very nice, humble and helpful man. I wish he comes back,” his neighbour, retired Master Mariner A.K. Ghosh, told this correspondent.

Even as the Indian Navy has instituted a Board of Inquiry to investigate into the reasons that led to the sinking of the vessel, there have been reports that the mishap took place due to ill maintenance of the vessel, which had led to corrosion of the plates of the steering compartment where the initial flooding started. Questions are also being raised whether a TRV can carry so many persons.

The Torpedo Recovery Vessel, which sank 35 nautical miles off the Vizag coast, was carrying scientists and technical officers of the Naval Science and Technological Laboratory, who went along with the two naval ships for testing torpedoes, developed by the premier defence laboratory.

Sources in the NSTL said that the mishap took place while coming back after successful completion of the torpedo testing. Since the mother-ships, from where these torpedoes were fired, were not so far away from the TRV, the NSTL scientists could be rescued.

The scientists were afloat with life vests for around half-an-hour until they were rescued by the ships. The crew members of the TRV had first provided life vests to the NSTL staff and pushed them to the other side of the vessel from where it started sinking. The crew then dropped the NSTL staff with the vests for them to be afloat until the rescue ships arrived.

NSTL is involved in the designing of underwater weapons and their associated weapon control systems like torpedoes, mines, decoys, targets, simulators, fire control systems and weapon launchers.

Last year, NSTL had established a state-of-the-art integration centre in Vizag to develop Electrical Heavy Weight Torpedoes for its prestigious Varunastra project.

“The plan was that the mother-ships from where these torpedoes are fired and tested in the sea will sail off to their destination and our scientists and other technical officers will come back to the shore on the TRV. As they boarded the TRV, the mishap took place. The testing mission was successful and everyone was happy” a NSTL senior officer told Deccan Chronicle.

Of the 24 rescued, most of them belong to NSTL and the remaining are crew members of the TRV. Dead sailor James Jacob and three others, who went missing, are also part of the crew of the TRV.

Generally a TRV is manned by 13 crew members including an officer of the Indian Navy. One of the missing was identified as weapon’s officer of the National Armament Inspection Office of Eastern Naval Command Lt Commander Shishir Kumar Y, 35, who inspected the testing of the torpedoes developed by NSTL in Vizag.

Tags:
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 

aksha

Captain
PRESS INFORMATION BUREAU (DEFENCE WING)
GOVERNMENT OF INDIA
*********
SUCCESSFUL FLIGHT TESTING OF LR SAM MISSILE
New Delhi: Kartika 19, 1936
Monday, November 10, 2014

The Long Range Surface to Air Missile (LRSAM) is successfully flight tested against a flying target in a range in Israel, today. Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI), Israel has carried out the test in the presence of DRDO scientists and officials of the Indian Armed Forces. The LRSAM system is jointly developed by DRDO and IAI Israel.

All the systems including the radar, communication launch systems and the missile system have performed as expected and hit the target directly and damaged. The system is developed for both Israel Defence Forces and Indian Armed Forces.

Scientific Advisor to Defence Minister Dr. Avinash Chander has witnessed the test along with President of IAI Mr. Joseph Weiss and other top officials of Israel Defence Forces. He termed the event as a milestone in the cooperation between two countries in developing advanced weapon systems.

FLASH: Indo-Israeli LR-SAM Tested Against Flying Target
Uf6oaiS.jpg

Indian MoD Statement: The Long Range Surface to Air Missile (LRSAM) is successfully flight tested against a flying target in a range in Israel, today. Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI), Israel has carried out the test in the presence of DRDO scientists and officials of the Indian Armed Forces. The LRSAM system is jointly developed by DRDO and IAI Israel.

All the systems including the radar, communication launch systems and the missile system have performed as expected and hit the target directly and damaged. The system is developed for both Israel Defence Forces and Indian Armed Forces.

Scientific Advisor to Defence Minister Dr. Avinash Chander has witnessed the test along with President of IAI Mr. Joseph Weiss and other top officials of Israel Defence Forces. He termed the event as a milestone in the cooperation between two countries in developing advanced weapon systems.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Press Information Bureau English Releases

Successful Flight Testing of LR SAM Missile

The Long Range Surface to Air Missile (LRSAM) is successfully flight tested against a flying target in a range in Israel, today. Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI), Israel has carried out the test in the presence of DRDO scientists and officials of the Indian Armed Forces. The LRSAM system is jointly developed by DRDO and IAI Israel.

All the systems including the radar, communication launch systems and the missile system have performed as expected and hit the target directly and damaged. The system is developed for both Israel Defence Forces and Indian Armed Forces.

Scientific Advisor to Defence Minister Dr. Avinash Chander has witnessed the test along with President of IAI Mr. Joseph Weiss and other top officials of Israel Defence Forces. He termed the event as a milestone in the cooperation between two countries in developing advanced weapon systems.

HH/RAJ
(Release ID :111231)
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 
Last edited:

aksha

Captain
Interesting how this slo-mo video shows the fins unfold inches out of the silo.

[video=youtube;nys7UtLNV90]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nys7UtLNV90[/video]
Intercept test validates Barak 8 air defense system maturity

Today at 07:20 (Israel time), Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI), in collaboration with the Israeli Ministry of Defense (IMOD), conducted the first successful flight test of the Barak-8 Air & Missile Defense System. On this test, held at the weapon test range in the Negev desert the system employed all the elements related to the naval and land-based variants of the system, including the phased array radar, battle management system, communications and the Barak-8 interceptor, which intercepted a manoeuvring air-breathing target representing an attacking combat aircraft.

The successful test validated the entire system which has already undergone exhaustive partial testing and simulations. The flight test has been delayed for months due to late arrival of parts of the propulsion systems, which have been released by India in the past months. Senior Indian officials attended the test. “This is an important milestone in the cooperation between India and Israel and in the development of the Barak-8 advanced air defense system” Dr. Avinash Chander, Head of DRDO and Scientific adviser to the Indian defense minister.
“The Barak-8 project expresses a constructive cooperation between the Indian DRDO, the Israeli DDR&D and both countries’ Defense Forces; together they have all pushed forward this important program, overcoming technological challenges and earning achievements along the way.” Rear Admiral (Res.) Ophir Shoham, head of Israel’s Research and Development directorate added.

Barak 8 provides high level of protection against a variety of aerial platforms and munitions including aircraft, helicopters, unmanned aircraft and sea-skimming missiles under all weather conditions. In addition to conventional sea skimming missiles, which fly in subsonic speed, Barak 8 is also designed to defeat advanced threats such as the supersonic cruise missiles such as the new CX-1 or Yakhont.

Its interceptor is a missile developed by RAFAEL, in collaboration with India’s Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO). Other key elements are the advanced phased array multi mission radar, two-way data link, and flexible command and control system enabling the system to be used as an area defense system, by integrating several fire units, sensors and command centers into an air defense ‘networked mesh’.
The system is scheduled to go through an accelerated testing campaign in the next years, which will include more verification tests, and launches at sea launches. Some of the tests are expected to take place in India. Although the missile testing have only started, IAI officials are confident that the system could become operational in few months, as most of the system’s elements have been thoroughly tested, some are already installed on surface ships in India and Israel.


Barak 8 air defense systems have been marketed by IAI and DRDO for several years, and have orders worth several billion US$ from a number of countries on books. Apart from India and Israel, Azerbaijan reportedly became a customer for the system. IAI is offering the system as new installations on surface vessels, as well as an upgrading of existing Barak-1 systems, providing extended coverage, providing air defense of naval groups, rather than the point defense of the carrying vessel, provided by Barak-1. Barak-1 systems are currently operational with the Navies of India, Chile, Singapore and Israel.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

strange but the prpulsion system were the first to be developed as early as 2010.

another source,theres a better video on this link.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!



thunderchief was right all thatt time about the missle not being ready yet.
The INS Lahav (Saar V class) corvette was upgraded with the MF-STAR ADIR phased array radar, providing the vessel a critical sensor for the defense of Israel’s offshore gas drilling rigs located in the EEZ, at the range of Gaza rockets and Hezbollah Yakhont anti-ship missiles. The Navy has recently successfully practiced air defense against those thraets, using BARAK I missiles. Future weapons, such as Barak 8, C-DOME and David’s Sling will provide more hermetic defense from such threats. Photo: Israel Navy
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

its rocket motor made by BEL.
CiYPhFG.jpg
 
Last edited:

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Intercept test validates Barak 8 air defense system maturity

"I remember people in this forum saying that israel has already equipped its ships with barak 8,while the indians have not done so because they were incompetent to absorb the technology"
Aksha, I do not believe it was so much that Indian was incompetent...and any broad statement to that effect would have been challenged by Moderators here on SD if we had seen it.

It was certainly however the case that India was not ready yet at that time and their schedule slipped. Which is not abnormal when you have high tech development occurring at two places where they must then integrate them.

I am glad to see that the procurement, logistical and whatever technical difficulties are being worked out (as we knew they would) and that hopefully soon the Kolkata will have a full compliment of its long-range Barak-8 missiles loaded in its VLS cells.

Very good news for the Indian Navy.
 

aksha

Captain
was india not ready?
the indians supplied the dual pulse motor in 2010(you will find the article in naval technology,will post it soon)and shipped it to israel in early 2011.
additionally the barak8 benefited hugely from the akash missile program,the ball was in theIAI's court.they said that they integrated the rocket with their saar corvettes which was a lie(the IAI guy says that the indians supplied the motor only recently) which you will find from the quote i posted,

the indians had more experience from the akash programme.

so were the indians ready , of course they were.the seeker just wasn't ready at that time.
infact they supplied the motors ahead of time.

did the indians shedule slip,then so did the israeli's.but actually it was the IAI's shedule which slipped ,which was more to do with integration with the radar.
 
Last edited:

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
was india not ready?
the indians supplied the dual pulse motor in 2010(you will find the article in naval technology,will post it soon)and shipped it to israel in early 2011.
additionally the barak8 benefited hugely from the akash missile program,the ball was in the israeli's court.they said that they integrated the rocket with their saar corvettes which was a lie(the IAI guy says that the indians supplied the motor only recently) which you will find from the quote i posted,

the indians had more experience from the akash programme.

so were the indians ready , of course they were.the seeker just wasn't ready at that time.
infact they supplied the motors ahead of time
Aksha, there is no need to get defensive.

Clearly, for whatever reason, for whatever excuse, India was not ready for the Barak-8 to be installed on the Kolkata at commissioning.

Period.

It makes absolutely no sense here on SD to try and lay blame either way. To say that it was India's fault or Israel's fault. We do not work on the program or have inside privileged information (and if we did, we would be foolish to reveal it on a public forum). In such cases there will always be finger pointing both ways.

As I say, such slippages are not uncommon when it comes to programs that have critical path development in different places, and even more so when those places are in two different nations. Heck, if everything were being developed, tested, and built on a single campus you still run into slippages when it comes to high tech programs. It is the nature of the beast.

The program slipped, the Barak-8 was not ready for deployment on the Kolkata's at commissioning. I know that is unfortunate and maybe even be embarrassing...but that is what happened. For whatever reason.

Let's leave it at that and be glad that the progress is now being made that will hopefully soon lead to the Kolkata getting its missiles and there being in place a good supply chain for them for the other vessels that will use them.

I am very glad to see that happening.
 
Last edited:

aksha

Captain
well,i know i am a bit bitter,

but the barak 8 would have made it had not IAI got itself blacklisted,for corruption and middlemen charges,india's previous who cared only for his reputation cancelled all deals with IAI,hence preventing india from getting more barak 1's and also stop sending the dual pulse motor to israel.the navy had to beg tothe CBI to give IAI the clean chit.
Read more at:
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
Delhi: The CBI today filed a closure report in a seven-year-old case of alleged bribery in the Rs 1,150 crore Barak missile deal in which former defence minister George Fernandes and the then naval chief Admiral Sushil Kumar were accused. The agency filed a closure report before Special CBI court in Patiala House saying replies received from foreign countries do not substantiate the allegation of kickbacks levelled against the state-run company Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI), former Samata Party officials Jaya Jaitley and RK Jain, Fernandes and Kumar. CBI sources said judicial requests were sent to the United Kingdom, UAE, Mauritius, Germany and Israel seeking details of financial transactions and other details of accused persons involved in the case. Former defence minister George Fernandes. Reuters They said Israel, in its reply to Letter Rogatory, denied making any payments to clinch the deal. The country also refused to give any further details citing confidentiality. The sources said replies from other countries also did not corroborate allegations levelled against IAI and other accused mentioned in the FIR. During the probe here, CBI said it did not find any evidence on the allegations levelled during the sting operation carried out by Tehelka. It was alleged that Fernandes' associate Jaya Jaitley and others had received a bribe of Rs 2 crore in the Rs 1,150 crore Barak missiles deal in 2000. CBI had been pursuing the case from various angles but every investigation hit a hurdle as Israel did not cooperate despite several Letters Rogatory and requests made through diplomatic channels for providing details about certain companies, the sources said. The sources said a decision was taken to close the case as there was no way that any headway could be made in the probe. The CBI had filed an FIR in a designated court on 10 October 2006 alleging that a sum of Rs 2 crore was paid to Jaitley, who acted as an "agent" to clinch the deal to buy seven Barak anti-missile defence (AMD) systems from the Isaraeli firm. Jaya Jaitley was then president of Fernandes' Samata Party. Jain, who was then treasurer of the Samata Party and was also named in the FIR, received a bribe of several lakhs, the CBI alleged. The CBI had alleged that Kumar "colluded with other accused to put up a note" to Fernandes to import the Barak systems despite objections from the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO). Fernandes not only approved the proposal for import of Barak AMD Systems but tried to get the proposal approved by the Cabinet Committee on Security despite objection by the then defence secretary, the CBI had alleged in its FIR. The proposal had also been processed on a single tender basis and the negotiated note of $268.63 million (whose rupee value at that time was Rs 1,125 crore) was also in excess of the earlier quoted rate by $17 million for which, there is no proper justification, the agency had said. Sushil Kumar was made the chief of the naval staff after the dismissal of Admiral Vishnu Bhagwat for publicly opposing government's decision to appoint Vice Admiral Harinder Singh as deputy chief of the naval staff. All of them had denied their involvement in the bribery case at that point of time.
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 
Last edited:

A Bar Brother

Junior Member
well,i know i am a bit bitter,

but the barak 8 would have made it had not IAI got itself blacklisted,for corruption and middlemen charges,india's previous who cared only for his reputation cancelled all deals with IAI,hence preventing india from getting more barak 1's and also stop sending the dual pulse motor to israel.the navy had to beg tothe CBI to give IAI the clean chit.

The CBI probe did not affect Barak-8. It affected Barak-1.
 
Top