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[no_name]

True, yes it may be loud and easily located but does the opponent forces has anything fast enough to kill it? This thing can out ran an enemy torpedo and maneuver quickly for a counter attack before the enemy submarine has the chance to escape safely.

Like the saying goes..."Speed kills".

I want to know the turn radius of this sub.





I still don't think it is practical.

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

Burst it's bubble and its all over.
As to turning radius the faster the object the bigger the turn and the more the worries interms of G forces and stresses. It might be able to turn a little but don't expect easy cornering. I doubt it being truly practical. And having any real cost advantage for long range of large size. It might be able to solve the issues of super cav torpedos which even the Russians don't use.

 

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Burst it's bubble and its all over.
As to turning radius the faster the object the bigger the turn and the more the worries interms of G forces and stresses. It might be able to turn a little but don't expect easy cornering. I doubt it being truly practical. And having any real cost advantage for long range of large size. It might be able to solve the issues of super cav torpedos which even the Russians don't use.

It doesn't have to go far to be out of range of the conventional submarine sonar just enough. As far as turning radius, just shut it down a bit to turn another direction and hit the engines again to attack the conventional sub.

 

[broadsword]

If the concept works, I believe China will tame the technology to produce a torpedo that will, at best, be slightly faster than the Russian cavitating torpedo, but will still be far more maneuverable. Definitely, not in the 1000s of km/h. It will still be air-launched.

Also, if the technology is useful in a mini-sub, they may apply it by combining with conventional propeller propulsion.

 

[no_name]

Can they scale it down into RC models? I'll get me a 'Pool Havoc'.

Get it to chase after surfers

 

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If the concept works, I believe China will tame the technology to produce a torpedo that will, at best, be slightly faster than the Russian cavitating torpedo, but will still be far more maneuverable. Definitely, not in the 1000s of km/h. It will still be air-launched.

Also, if the technology is useful in a mini-sub, they may apply it by combining with conventional propeller propulsion.

What's more important is that China is able to continue with developing the program further. Like I said before, it's ALL about the program.

 

[Skywatcher]

It sounds like this new Chinese supercavitating technology would allow ultra fast torpedoes to be dropped from airplanes (currently, you need either a submarine torpedo tube or a specialized surface launcher to fire it, since it has to first reach speeds of 50 mph before the Shkval can get supercavitation).

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

If the concept works, I believe China will tame the technology to produce a torpedo that will, at best, be slightly faster than the Russian cavitating torpedo, but will still be far more maneuverable. Definitely, not in the 1000s of km/h. It will still be air-launched.

Also, if the technology is useful in a mini-sub, they may apply it by combining with conventional propeller propulsion.

Its one or the other. The shape of a super cave is that of a bullet not a tear drop, next the super cav works by rocket propulsion to generate thrust in the air bubble. The propeller even a jet propulser would be redundant in the cavitation.
Next the Chinese breakthrough here is the claim that they now have a way of turning. Via alternating thrust and altering the shape of the cavitation. Still in the end it comes down to practical matters of price and proliferation. The US, Germany and Russia are both know to have super cavitation technology's and the Iranians claim to have it, and may have copied the Russians.

To date the employment of such systems is limited NATO only having test units built. The Russians have there submarine launched torpedo but not air or surface. If the PLAN submarine forces and Anti submarine warfare units start looking to this tech. I would bet that it would not be long before the same would be true of USN and Russian fleets followed by the European navies. And it would likely not be long before other Asian markets are also using super cav torpedo's.

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

Can they scale it down into RC models? I'll get me a 'Pool Havoc'.

Get it to chase after surfers

trying to kill the surfers? The smallest super cav tech employment is a bullet. No literally. But not your standard issue round. The Russians, Chinese and now Nato forces all have to a limited degree bullets that use super cavitation to kill underwater. The effect though is limited with even full rifle rounds having very short ranges. Your Pool Havoc would be better propelled by ducted thrusters.

 

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Its one or the other. The shape of a super cave is that of a bullet not a tear drop, next the super cav works by rocket propulsion to generate thrust in the air bubble. The propeller even a jet propulser would be redundant in the cavitation.
Next the Chinese breakthrough here is the claim that they now have a way of turning. Via alternating thrust and altering the shape of the cavitation. Still in the end it comes down to practical matters of price and proliferation. The US, Germany and Russia are both know to have super cavitation technology's and the Iranians claim to have it, and may have copied the Russians.

To date the employment of such systems is limited NATO only having test units built. The Russians have there submarine launched torpedo but not air or surface. If the PLAN submarine forces and Anti submarine warfare units start looking to this tech. I would bet that it would not be long before the same would be true of USN and Russian fleets followed by the European navies. And it would likely not be long before other Asian markets are also using super cav torpedo's.

True, but only a couple of nations in the entire world has the budget and scientists to sustain the program in the long run to see fruition and China is one them.