J-20... The New Generation Fighter
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Re: New Generation Fighter
HOLY SH*T that's sexy... omg so awesome. Love the green glow of the HUD as well.
HOLY SH*T that's sexy... omg so awesome. Love the green glow of the HUD as well.
Re: New Generation Fighter
Lol for a moment there you nearly got me. Nice
The thing is that the J-20's current engine lay out and the Mig 1.44's is no different to many other twin engine planes :/
Lol for a moment there you nearly got me. Nice
The thing is that the J-20's current engine lay out and the Mig 1.44's is no different to many other twin engine planes :/
Subedei
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Precisely! Similar to many other 3rd, 4th, and 4.5th generation twin engine aircraft, and NOT similar to 5th generation (using western nomenclature, that is).
I guess I just expected that the airframe would taper toward the rear as the F-22 and T-50 do.
It doesn't! So, I'll stop riding a dead horse.
Precisely! Similar to many other 3rd, 4th, and 4.5th generation twin engine aircraft, and NOT similar to 5th generation (using western nomenclature, that is).
I guess I just expected that the airframe would taper toward the rear as the F-22 and T-50 do.
It doesn't! So, I'll stop riding a dead horse.
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Well I personally think the rear end doesn't look very different from the F-22, only the F-22 has its unique TVC nozzles. If it had conventional nozzles then it wouldn't look very different to the J-20 as it is now.
That's kind of like pointing out similarities between the J-10 and Eurofighter or Gripen or Rafale or Lavi or what not. Just a warning that quite a few people here get annoyed with baseless comparisons.
Unless you actually think the J-20 was influenced by the Mig 1.44, it's probably wiser not to risk the fury of some of the SDF members
Well I personally think the rear end doesn't look very different from the F-22, only the F-22 has its unique TVC nozzles. If it had conventional nozzles then it wouldn't look very different to the J-20 as it is now.
That's kind of like pointing out similarities between the J-10 and Eurofighter or Gripen or Rafale or Lavi or what not. Just a warning that quite a few people here get annoyed with baseless comparisons.
Unless you actually think the J-20 was influenced by the Mig 1.44, it's probably wiser not to risk the fury of some of the SDF members
MwRYum
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Re: New Generation Fighter
Aren't we all.
The problem is when'd it go first flight? Once it does we can then see how the weapon bays gonna be. If even the mainland newspapers (though that ain't the People's Daily) get the trickle of info out and mainland BBS are flooding with news of it, would CAC/PLAAF pull a stunt by having it first flight in New Year's Day?
However with all the saying going around the plane/engine combo is not yet finalized (waiting for WS-15?), new engines with - if so - TVC capacity could change the equation somewhat, unless this prototype has reserved space and weight for that already.
As to J-20 keep the guns, guns were old but still a reliable tool of trade, even the F-22 keeps the M-61.
Aren't we all.
The problem is when'd it go first flight? Once it does we can then see how the weapon bays gonna be. If even the mainland newspapers (though that ain't the People's Daily) get the trickle of info out and mainland BBS are flooding with news of it, would CAC/PLAAF pull a stunt by having it first flight in New Year's Day?
However with all the saying going around the plane/engine combo is not yet finalized (waiting for WS-15?), new engines with - if so - TVC capacity could change the equation somewhat, unless this prototype has reserved space and weight for that already.
As to J-20 keep the guns, guns were old but still a reliable tool of trade, even the F-22 keeps the M-61.
Martian
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Re: New Generation Fighter
I wholeheartedly support Bltizo's post and am in full agreement. We don't like people that try to annoy us without hard evidence.
Well I personally think the rear end doesn't look very different from the F-22, only the F-22 has its unique TVC nozzles. If it had conventional nozzles then it wouldn't look very different to the J-20 as it is now.
That's kind of like pointing out similarities between the J-10 and Eurofighter or Gripen or Rafale or Lavi or what not. Just a warning that quite a few people here get annoyed with baseless comparisons.
Unless you actually think the J-20 was influenced by the Mig 1.44, it's probably wiser not to risk the fury of some of the SDF members
I wholeheartedly support Bltizo's post and am in full agreement. We don't like people that try to annoy us without hard evidence.
Subedei
Banned Idiot
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Thanks for the advice!
Not sure that my comparison is baseless, just 'cause you say it is. It's based in seeking to condiser possible design influences on the J-20. Sometimes, we might consider that other's persopectives just might be as valid as ours. But, that requires humility, and I understand that humility is not generally characteristic of those who trace their cultural ancestry to the BRITISH EMPIRE!!! Thanks to the J-20, that may soon change!!!
Being that my tradition encourages individuals to value their own perceptions and experiences, and honors those who have the courage to be themselves in the face of criticism, I'll stick to my observations and suffer whatever comes. I don't harbor those insecurites which compel some to comform to popular opinion. I'm not a Victorian, and I'm not a middle-class consumer!
Sorry not to let you limit my possibilities. Kind'a wonder why you feel the need to???;(
Unless you actually think the J-20 was influenced by the Mig 1.44, it's probably wiser not to risk the fury of some of the SDF members
Thanks for the advice!
Not sure that my comparison is baseless, just 'cause you say it is. It's based in seeking to condiser possible design influences on the J-20. Sometimes, we might consider that other's persopectives just might be as valid as ours. But, that requires humility, and I understand that humility is not generally characteristic of those who trace their cultural ancestry to the BRITISH EMPIRE!!!
Thanks to the J-20, that may soon change!!!Being that my tradition encourages individuals to value their own perceptions and experiences, and honors those who have the courage to be themselves in the face of criticism, I'll stick to my observations and suffer whatever comes. I don't harbor those insecurites which compel some to comform to popular opinion. I'm not a Victorian, and I'm not a middle-class consumer!
Sorry not to let you limit my possibilities. Kind'a wonder why you feel the need to???;(
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