2026 Israel-US vs. Iran conflict [Military updates/News Only]

[AlexYe]

The cognitive dissonance is starting to kick in isnt it?

No, it just means they are doing it virtually because Netanyaho is either too scared or they cant protect him.
he is in a deep 100meter underground bunker with the rest of them, only comes out selectively.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2034809526080176482

They were reports today that some ships passed by by paying $2million fee to Iran, all these ship owner/companies gotta do is pay the fee and go.

Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but got a prediction for you guys and gals to chew on:

A lot of Ukrainians will be serving in GCC militaries as contractors, advisors, mercenaries — or whatever you want to call 'em — in the coming years.

In fact, I won't be surprised if the government in Kiev and certain GCC sheikhdoms agree to have entire Ukrainian battalions or even brigades

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to the Gulf on

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down the road (once hostilities with Russia simmer down).

Yeah I feel like alot of Ukraine guys gonna become future mercs/advisors and stuff like that all over the world, esp used by usa/west.

TheTimes:

Ukrainian Armed Forces experts who went to the Middle East to train to shoot down "shaheeds" were, to put it mildly, shocked by the way the US military does it
The Americans launch 8 Patriot missiles at one target for $3 million, while the Ukrainian Armed Forces shoot down ballistic missiles with 1-2 missiles.

Details:
NATO soldiers can launch eight Patriot missiles at a single target—each costs over $3 million.
Sometimes they even use a $6 million SM-6 missile to shoot down a $70,000 Shaheed.
Radars often operate without proper camouflage—essentially "shining" like beacons. In Ukraine, radars are constantly being moved and hidden.

An example is cited of how just three cheap drones destroyed an AN/FPS-132 early warning radar worth approximately $1 billion and another air defense radar (worth approximately $300 million), which had been stationed in one place for a long time and were easily tracked by satellites.

 

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[FriedButter]

Quite frankly, especially with tweets and quick headlines, we should take 2 minutes to check the sources rather than filling several pages with wild speculation before checking.

WSJ says they are going to the Middle East.

I don’t know why anyone still believes what Trump Officials say after playing the same trick for the 5000th time.

Pentagon Sending Thousands of Additional Marines to Middle East​

The Pentagon is sending three warships and thousands of additional Marines to the Middle East, even as President Trump insists he won't put American boots on the ground in Iran, according to U.S. officials. Roughly 2,200 to 2,500 Marines from the California-based USS Boxer amphibious ready group and 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit are heading to the U.S. Central Command, responsible for all American forces in the Middle East, the officials said.

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[_killuminati_]

I think that’s an incorrect conclusion.

The primary purpose of exhaust IR suppression is to reduce the IE signature in your contrail. That means that at long range, your IE signature is a few pixels that might easily be filtered out as noise by the software, compared to a long smear of heat that will be much easier to pick up by both software and human eyes.

This instance is an example where the F35 is basically at point blank range to the SAM, and is not a useful reference point, just as a stealth fighter being picked up by a radar at single digit km range is no proof that radar stealth is useless.

Additionally, I think that that IR image has had special software filtering applied, as it doesn’t shown any of the peaks and troughs you would normally see in a more common thermal image. My guess is that the software was written to deliberately smooth out the temp gradient and show one uniform shape rather than pick out all the different shades of heat across the different parts of the plane. This would make sense for using thermal for detection and PID purposes, as it would be far more useful to have one large uniform image of a potential target rather than just a few really bright pixels that drowns out the details.

But why would an F-35 fly this low? Trying to evade detection like a terrain-hugging cm?

 

[Anlsvrthng]

But why would an F-35 fly this low? Trying to evade detection like a terrain-hugging cm?

Yes. Long wave radars can detect them like any other plane.

And if they detect them then they can direct the illumiator radars onto them, and even if it can't see it still can guide the missile onto it.

Resason why the Nebo-m is so big .
Most likelly it designed around the power of the flap lid radar, the senisitvness of the semi active missile seeker, and based on that they defined the maximum cubical space for radar resolution, and that gives the size of the Nebo-M.

Simple engineering design .

From theat point on,
1.the Nebo-m tracking the target
2. missie launch
3. in the last ten km, 5 sec before impact the flad lit power on, with continous illumination onto the space ID by the Nebo-M
the missile seeker lock on, even if the targeting radar can't see
4. hit

 

[Ghkzxc]

they have half-million troops in desert storm

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2034991013085757897

 

[RottenPanzer]

For the first time, Iranian air defenses damaged an American F-35 fighter jet with an unknown missile in central Iran. Iranian Majid air defense systems or Izdeliye-358/359 missiles were presumably used. The F-35 was hit by a heat-seeking missile. The damaged F-35 made an emergency landing at an airbase in the Middle East. The F-35's downing demonstrates the aircraft's high survivability and vulnerability to simple air defense systems. Had Iran used any more powerful air defenses, the aircraft would have inevitably been shot down.

I could say that it's officially can be confirmed as a loss...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2034989858184106316

 

[plawolf]

But why would an F-35 fly this low? Trying to evade detection like a terrain-hugging cm?

The Iranians don’t really offer much threat to high flying LO assets, certainly nothing the U.S. has not trained extensively against and are well equipped to handle.

My guess is that it’s flying low because it’s trying to hunt for ballistic missile TELs, Shahed drone launchers and the like using its EOTS.

 

[mack8]

Why do we think the F-35 was flying low? These days such EO/IR cameras have comparatively long ranges, i would think all things considered the F-35 was quite high, i very much doubt that they wouldn't have kept it's operation height outside the range of flak and MANPADS/SHORADS.

 

[Totoro]

Yeah, I was about to ask that too. Was there some Iranian claim or evidence that the interception happened at low altitudes? if not, and if the low altitude theory is simply a product of someone thinking that the video itself must mean the camera must be close by - then that's not very convincing. It's perfectly possible for a large lens, well stabilized camera from the ground to capture such an image even at 10 km up. Alternatively, perhaps less likely, Iran does have jet engine powered SAM missiles which could, conceivably, be trailing the f35 and perhaps even help track it, while another SAM does the interception itself.