2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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paknet

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To be honest, I do not like that strategy. In fact, I do not like how the Iranians are fighting this missile war.

They should be hitting Israel with everything they got and do it twice as hard.

Wiping out Americans bases are a goal which they have done an excellent job.

Still, I would believe the main goal is to get Israel.

Because if Iran wipes out Americans bases, Israel is still there. They should try harder to wipe out Israel. That is brutal but I do not think they are trying hard enough.

The problem with trying to convince the Arabs not to have the Americans comeback, the Iranian will need a long war to traumatize the Arab populations and leadership that US bases are ultimately not in their interests. In fact, it may take another war for that to sink in.

So, I do not think Iran has hit Israel hard enough, and not really hitting Arab states much at all. The big success is the bases.

But we are not allowed to speculate if any outside help was used, so the self-censorship continues.

:D
Iran does not need to hit anyone harder then they already are. What they need is to keep the war going for a long time. The more this drags on the more damage it will do to US- Israel and the western interests in the region. Hitting hard accomplishes nothing in the long term.
 

_killuminati_

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To be honest, I do not like that strategy. In fact, I do not like how the Iranians are fighting this missile war.

They should be hitting Israel with everything they got and do it twice as hard.

Wiping out Americans bases are a goal which they have done an excellent job.

Still, I would believe the main goal is to get Israel.

Because if Iran wipes out Americans bases, Israel is still there. They should try harder to wipe out Israel. That is brutal but I do not think they are trying hard enough.

The problem with trying to convince the Arabs not to have the Americans comeback, the Iranian will need a long war to traumatize the Arab populations and leadership that US bases are ultimately not in their interests. In fact, it may take another war for that to sink in.

So, I do not think Iran has hit Israel hard enough, and not really hitting Arab states much at all. The big success is the bases.

But we are not allowed to speculate if any outside help was used, so the self-censorship continues.

:D
Israel is getting hit very hard already. There is serious censorship in Israel as it recently passed a law that gives prison sentences to anyone found sharing videos of damage in Israel. Yet still, past few days, some Israelis (and Indians in Israel) have begun uploading the damage which is much worse than the previous war (I posted some clips some yesterday).

As for Arabs, I'm sure they've already figured out by now that US is not there to protect them. Many of their leaders have said this openly. Unfortunately for them, their hands are tied behind their backs due to decades of reliance on the West, systemic embedding of Western personnel in Arab militaries and security.

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plawolf

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As funny as this looks, it's actually the correct answer.

- G7 oil reserves can only last so long with 20M barrels of ME oil taken offline, if they don't fix this it's over for all western economies, especially since they're all in massive debt and trade deficit and can never hope to outbid someone running $1.2 trillion trade surplus for the remaining oil.
-For America, if Iran secures veto over all ME oil export the petro dollar is over and their $40 trillion debt bomb blows up, that's literally end of empire level event.
- For Israel, if US run out of interceptors before Iran run out of missiles, they will be turned into Gaza by cheap drones along with their airforce on the ground. If US loses the petro dollar, even jetfuel and JDAMs become a problem. At that point the only thing standing between them and an Iranian ground force is ISIS in Syria, and ISIS might just take a deal from Iran to liberate Palestine, Israel will then discover just how nice ISIS can be toward the Choosen People.
- Even sending in a ground invasion is off the table, it might have worked if they pre-positioned forces and started off with a ground invasion on day 1, but now that they lost access to all ME bases and ran out of interceptors and radars, that option is basically gone.

The only way to prevent the above is by destroying Iran's drones, missiles and factories, and there is a limited amount of time to do so.

So the goal White House said is actually correct, you just need to read it as "survive"

All true and valid points, and all increase the risk that ‘Israeli’ will drop nuclear bombs on Iran to try to force a victory.

This has always been the ultimate problem and risk when dealing with America, that they will resort to using nuclear weapons to overturn a failing conventional war. Just another reason Iran was beyond foolish to not seriously pursue a nuclear weapon instead of using the threat of a nuclear weapons programme as pure leverage and bargain chips.
 

H2O

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The problem with trying to convince the Arabs not to have the Americans comeback, the Iranian will need a long war to traumatize the Arab populations and leadership that US bases are ultimately not in their interests. In fact, it may take another war for that to sink in.

So, I do not think Iran has hit Israel hard enough, and not really hitting Arab states much at all. The big success is the bases.

I'm not sure if these Arab Monarchies will survive this war.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Iran may threaten to close the Strait of Hormuz all it wants but the fact of the matter remains that it does not have the capability to do so.

Almost all of its surface combatants have been eliminated. Earlier today, the US took out 16 of its minelayers. Despite its supposed large stockpile of anti-ship and land-attack cruise missiles, almost none of them seems to have been used in this conflict, suggesting that they have been destroyed or not many were produced to begin with. Iran's air force put up less of a fight than Iraq's did back in 2003 and are essentially no longer a viable fighting force. Iran does not have any materiel with which it could credibly threaten shipping in the Strait, and certainly not with USN submarines at the standby. The US realizes this and understandably has not really paid too much attention to Iran's verbal threats.

At this point, with the Hormuz "trump card" all but negated, Iran's remaining credible deterrent in this conflict is its leftover stockpile of ballistic missiles, which is undoubtedly being depleted or destroyed at a rate faster than they could be replaced. It has no navy, air force, organized command and control, or a credible proxy network. Sooner or later, those missiles will run out as well. While it may be correct to point out certain shortcomings of the US effort in this campaign, it needs to be said that Iran faces a much more dire - and perhaps even existential - situation.


Yes yes, Iran not using AShMs have nothing to do with the fact there are no suitable targets within range to shoot at and everything to do with the US and Israel somehow managing to genocide their AShM missiles as number one target priority while Shehads and ballistic missiles are raining down on their bases.

In fact, it’s so absolutely safe the US should just sail its aircraft carrier action groups into the Strait of Hormuz so their aircraft will save some fuel and they can use the Burkes main guns for shore bombardment! Please do it, it will make the Iranians cry so hard if you did!
 

Chevalier

Major
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To be honest, I do not like that strategy. In fact, I do not like how the Iranians are fighting this missile war.

They should be hitting Israel with everything they got and do it twice as hard.

Wiping out Americans bases are a goal which they have done an excellent job.

Still, I would believe the main goal is to get Israel.

Because if Iran wipes out Americans bases, Israel is still there. They should try harder to wipe out Israel. That is brutal but I do not think they are trying hard enough.

The problem with trying to convince the Arabs not to have the Americans comeback, the Iranian will need a long war to traumatize the Arab populations and leadership that US bases are ultimately not in their interests. In fact, it may take another war for that to sink in.

So, I do not think Iran has hit Israel hard enough, and not really hitting Arab states much at all. The big success is the bases.

But we are not allowed to speculate if any outside help was used, so the self-censorship continues.

:D
Ideally, Iran should aim to sink at least a few carriers, specifically the Gerald R Ford and a few Arleigh Burke ships, whatever diminishes U.S. power in a potential east Asia conflict. In fact, a Russian or Chinese black ops team could launch a few Iranian style UCAV suicide drones towards the hull of those carriers
 

horse

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Lmao so much for the US trying to blockade China at Hormuz idea. Clearly not a chokepoint Americans could ever control.

It was just too logical, you know what I mean.

The Houthis shut the Red Sea. They were backed by Iran. But the Chinese were allowed free access.

Currently, Iran has blocked the Strait of Hormuz. But at least 80% of Iran's oil is delivered to China.

Just is just too logical. If Iran and China can work something out there before in the past, then you know.

But the Americans would harp on and go on and on about choke points to China's oil. Just shut the hell up already.

So finally reality makes them shut up.

Then the Americans would be angry at China, because it is getting oil, like China doing business with a third party is like any of their damn business. Then the Americans would be angry at Iran, who they attacked unprovoked.

:D:D:D:D
 

Temstar

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It was just too logical, you know what I mean.

The Houthis shut the Red Sea. They were backed by Iran. But the Chinese were allowed free access.

Currently, Iran has blocked the Strait of Hormuz. But at least 80% of Iran's oil is delivered to China.

Just is just too logical. If Iran and China can work something out there before in the past, then you know.

But the Americans would harp on and go on and on about choke points to China's oil. Just shut the hell up already.

So finally reality makes them shut up.

Then the Americans would be angry at China, because it is getting oil, like China doing business with a third party is like any of their damn business. Then the Americans would be angry at Iran, who they attacked unprovoked.

:D:D:D:D
I mean if the Americans wanted to they could sink those tankers coming out of Iran going to China.
But they won't, because nobody wants to see flying moped parts and rocket fuel precursors just sprout out of the sand like bamboo shoots.
 

NorthKimBestKim

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Two things: Article 5 of NATO and, most importantly, Türkiye has even better military capabilities than Iran :3
Article 5 for Turkey is nothing, but "in name" only. Turkey was surely needed against the USSR until USSR decided to take heavy demo-crazy strap-on in 1991 on itself, and Turkey is still somewhat useful against Russia.

But if the Imperial Alliance feels that Iran is finished as in "after Iran" - and Russia somehow broken, Turkey is on the "let's smoke it" list. Of course, imagine all Kurds suddenly being supported in Turkey for separatism.

Imperial Alliance is already broadcasting directly who is "on the list" and who comes next. You don't get better transparency than that.
 
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