2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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LCR34

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What threaten? It's already closed for days. Hardly any ships passing through. No antiship missiles used because no ships passing through?

US bases in the region have been obliterated, Hezbollah bombing northern Israel, Iraqi militia pounding American bases in Iraq, Israeli cities in lockdown with immense damage, and you're actually suggesting Iran has neither a proxy network nor any C&C! Either you're not following this thread closely or you are coping hard.
Well because several US officials runs their mouth on X stating that business as usual at Hormuz as oil price dropped below $85.

Edit: Well the price shot up to 86 now.
 

gaussgun

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Iran may threaten to close the Strait of Hormuz all it wants but the fact of the matter remains that it does not have the capability to do so.

Almost all of its surface combatants have been eliminated. Earlier today, the US took out 16 of its minelayers. Despite its supposed large stockpile of anti-ship and land-attack cruise missiles, almost none of them seems to have been used in this conflict, suggesting that they have been destroyed or not many were produced to begin with. Iran's air force put up less of a fight than Iraq's did back in 2003 and are essentially no longer a viable fighting force. Iran does not have any materiel with which it could credibly threaten shipping in the Strait, and certainly not with USN submarines at the standby. The US realizes this and understandably has not really paid too much attention to Iran's verbal threats.

At this point, with the Hormuz "trump card" all but negated, Iran's remaining credible deterrent in this conflict is its leftover stockpile of ballistic missiles, which is undoubtedly being depleted or destroyed at a rate faster than they could be replaced. It has no navy, air force, organized command and control, or a credible proxy network. Sooner or later, those missiles will run out as well. While it may be correct to point out certain shortcomings of the US effort in this campaign, it needs to be said that Iran faces a much more dire - and perhaps even existential - situation.
A ship just got hit in the last few hours, they don't need a lot of drones to hit cargo ships. As far as we can see it's Chinese linked ships that are being allowed through

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horse

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Linking this again. Have to emphasize its importance. Since now Iran is going to be taxing every ship that moves through the Persian Gulf, this is not only a revenue source but also a loud challenge to the US: there is no freedom of navigation anymore. Its done. Now Iran owns the Straits of Hormuz.

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Huge implications for China. China is now legally justified in simply declaring ownership of the Taiwan Strait and taxing every single Taiwanese ship or it gets sunk.


Yeah, have to agree. The Americans cannot accept it, they cannot even bring their heads around to even contemplate it.

Those US bases are gone for good. That is what happens with precision weapons and targeting data, or so we are told.

That is modern warfare.

I always thought that the end of the Ukraine war will change the world. Then they go ahead do this. Unbelievable.

Not to mentioned that Iran was surrounded by US bases. Haha! Haha!

:D
 

horse

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These people do not understand the Iranian mindset right now.​

To be honest, I do not like that strategy. In fact, I do not like how the Iranians are fighting this missile war.

They should be hitting Israel with everything they got and do it twice as hard.

Wiping out Americans bases are a goal which they have done an excellent job.

Still, I would believe the main goal is to get Israel.

Because if Iran wipes out Americans bases, Israel is still there. They should try harder to wipe out Israel. That is brutal but I do not think they are trying hard enough.

The problem with trying to convince the Arabs not to have the Americans comeback, the Iranian will need a long war to traumatize the Arab populations and leadership that US bases are ultimately not in their interests. In fact, it may take another war for that to sink in.

So, I do not think Iran has hit Israel hard enough, and not really hitting Arab states much at all. The big success is the bases.

But we are not allowed to speculate if any outside help was used, so the self-censorship continues.

:D
 

plawolf

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Why do you think it's localized to "MAGA"?
It's basically the entire spectrum.

Same thing in most of NATO/hangarounds.
Here in Sweden all 8 parties of parliament (Riksdagen) instantly pledged support for this illegal war of aggression.
Our furthest left is in essence far right ultramilitaristic chauvinists, distinguishing between these and "MAGA" is pointless - they are the same in the matters that truly matter - because nothing trumps War.

It’s the Fordafication of politics. You can have any shade of pink, purple and green parties you want, so long as they all pledge allegiance to the Empire and its daddy Israel. Any party that doesn’t is automatically outlawed as terrorists and extremists. But please, vote for whoever you want!
 
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janmichaeldave

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To be honest, I do not like that strategy. In fact, I do not like how the Iranians are fighting this missile war.

They should be hitting Israel with everything they got and do it twice as hard.

Wiping out Americans bases are a goal which they have done an excellent job.

Still, I would believe the main goal is to get Israel.

Because if Iran wipes out Americans bases, Israel is still there. They should try harder to wipe out Israel. That is brutal but I do not think they are trying hard enough.

The problem with trying to convince the Arabs not to have the Americans comeback, the Iranian will need a long war to traumatize the Arab populations and leadership that US bases are ultimately not in their interests. In fact, it may take another war for that to sink in.

So, I do not think Iran has hit Israel hard enough, and not really hitting Arab states much at all. The big success is the bases.

But we are not allowed to speculate if any outside help was used, so the self-censorship continues.

:D

Iran is in it for the long haul. They can produce 100 missiles a month before the war. If they go all out every day they will go through their stockpile really fast.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Iran may threaten to close the Strait of Hormuz all it wants but the fact of the matter remains that it does not have the capability to do so.

Almost all of its surface combatants have been eliminated. Earlier today, the US took out 16 of its minelayers. Despite its supposed large stockpile of anti-ship and land-attack cruise missiles, almost none of them seems to have been used in this conflict, suggesting that they have been destroyed or not many were produced to begin with. Iran's air force put up less of a fight than Iraq's did back in 2003 and are essentially no longer a viable fighting force. Iran does not have any materiel with which it could credibly threaten shipping in the Strait, and certainly not with USN submarines at the standby. The US realizes this and understandably has not really paid too much attention to Iran's verbal threats.

At this point, with the Hormuz "trump card" all but negated, Iran's remaining credible deterrent in this conflict is its leftover stockpile of ballistic missiles, which is undoubtedly being depleted or destroyed at a rate faster than they could be replaced. It has no navy, air force, organized command and control, or a credible proxy network. Sooner or later, those missiles will run out as well. While it may be correct to point out certain shortcomings of the US effort in this campaign, it needs to be said that Iran faces a much more dire - and perhaps even existential - situation.

then have ships run the straits?

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btw instead of listening to bombastic announcements, how about image proof only, Ukraine-Russia style? I mean I wouldn't trust announcements by any side, only imaged proof.

It has been proven in the past that NATO will exaggerate its gains up to a factor of 10, such as in Serbia. General Wesley Clark audited the battlefield after the Serbian surrender and found that the Serbians told the truth about only a dozen tanks destroyed while NATO was claiming 100s.

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BTW I notice you like to make these bombastic statements too. What's your deal? Why are you doing this? Is this the only way you know how to talk? You don't know how to talk factually?
 
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