Russian Su-57 Aircraft Thread (PAK-FA and IAF FGFA)

siegecrossbow

siegecrossbow

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Nx4eu said:
First few batches of Su-57"M" will feature Chinese GaN radar as a stopgap before switching over to local Russian product.

"M" is in quotations because there will be no Su-57M variant, they will all be named Su-57. "Megapolis" is the R&D name. Now that current Su-57 batches that feature some of the Megapolis technologies, the difference between this variant and the future ones don't warrant a new name.

George said this so I'm trusting it actually.
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mack8

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Let's look at this from another angle, if the latest Su-57 has a GaN radar then it beats the F-35 to same by years. I'm not even sure the americans have a GaN fighter radar optional, though others might know more on the subject. The biggest problem with Su-57 is it's slow production rate, i guess we can't expect Russia to crank them up in J-20 or F-35 numbers, but still merely two or even three dozen Su-57s a year for VKS would be very welcome.
 
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mack8 said:
I'm not even sure the americans have a GaN fighter radar optional, though others might know more on the subject.
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They do, though just one and relatively rare type(An/apg-79v4 on remaining USMC F-18C/Ds; not US NAVY E/F/Gs!).
I'm a bit sceptical about Russia having GaN even now, even if China can help with TRM production. We shall see though.
mack8 said:
The biggest problem with Su-57 is it's slow production rate, i guess we can't expect Russia to crank them up in J-20 or F-35 numbers, but still merely two or even three dozen Su-57s a year for VKS would be very welcome.
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VKS modern fighter strength is just not that big, and ironically Su-57s already form very noticeable portion of that number.

Don't treat VKS in same size league as USAF/PLAAF, they're more of a ~USN sized fighter force. Current production tempo, which is ~1.5 dozens including export, is solid for given force levels, for an expensive aircraft which isn't meant to replace rest of the force. More so entire sukhoi force, which also covers strike aircraft and entirely separate naval aviation branch.

Current TAF force design is clearly su-57 guiding 4++ assets; imminent future procurement priority is VLO LW(s-70), as well as apparently su-57 twin seater, able to exploit them better.

There's relatively wide expectation that VKS seats in "wait and see" position, looking if Sukhoi can deliver S-75 as a next gen LFI on a plate(and vise versa, Sukhoi bets that AF will bite), and they're looking at each other like two gangsters: who'll blink first.

This aircraft does show promise to go for full order in affordable budget, and it'll also likely be able to keep Russia competitive enough in air domain.
 
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SlothmanAllen

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mack8 said:
Let's look at this from another angle, if the latest Su-57 has a GaN radar then it beats the F-35 to same by years. I'm not even sure the americans have a GaN fighter radar optional, though others might know more on the subject. The biggest problem with Su-57 is it's slow production rate, i guess we can't expect Russia to crank them up in J-20 or F-35 numbers, but still merely two or even three dozen Su-57s a year for VKS would be very welcome.
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...The US has GaN based radars used on the F/A-18, F-15EX, EA-18G, and EA-37B along with upcoming AN/APG-85 for the F-35. They also widely deployed GaN on numerous ground based air defence radars.
 
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