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[Engineer]

China is currently growing at 8.5% in PPP GDP in the last few years since Covid. While nominal GDP growth is much slower due to deflation, there is explosive growth in PPP GDP.

Even if China grows its PPP GDP by a much slower 6% rate in the next 20 years, its GDP PPP will grow by 3.2 times! Therefore, I expect China's GDP to be much larger in 20 years and they will have sufficient budget to do maintenance on hardware produced now.

GDP growth is not growth of government's income!

 

[tamsen_ikard]

GDP growth is not growth of government's income!

Unless government is reducing the tax rate, more GDP means more taxes. Besides, China is one of the least taxed countries in the world. China's current tax burden is about 20% of GDP, which is significantly lower than US and western countries. So, No, money is not a problem.

The problem is overall government strategy, which is hide and bide and much lower military spending. Anyways, we will see if China's current approach of timidity in foreign policy and lower defense spending will be successful or not. If China cannot prevent countries from falling into US dominance and US allies like Japan and SK get nukes without a military response from China. I would consider that a failure.

It is absolutely existential for China stop SK and Japan from getting nukes. They must be willing to fight a war for it. Otherwize, the more weak US gets, the more they will go for nukes.

 

[tokenanalyst]

AMERICA FIRST!!!!!
OMG, MAGATARDs got so cheated.

 

[henrik]

Whatever you are smoking, I want to have some.

J-20 production alone already exceeds 100 per year, not to mention J-15, J-16, Y-9, and Y-20 variants. Even if only 100 fighters were added, that number is still larger than the airforce of most nations. The number of "few cheap surface ships" launched last year also exceeds the size of most navies.

Equipment also don't operate by themselves. Increase any faster and China will run into personal shortage, if aren't running into personal shortage already.

The guy is just bluffing about China's real military spending.

 

[Engineer]

Unless government is reducing the tax rate, more GDP means more taxes.

No. More GDP does not mean more taxes.

Besides, China is one of the least taxed countries in the world. China's current tax burden is about 20% of GDP, which is significantly lower than US and western countries. So, No, money is not a problem.

The problem is overall government strategy, which is hide and bide and much lower military spending.

Except money is the problem. There are shit load of expenditures that you may think is not important, but they are. Think of bio-tech, China would have been fucked in 2020 if China didn't invest in bio-tech earlier.

 

[manqiangrexue]

Can't build much with 1.5% of GDP. Despite all the tensions in the region and across the world. China still keeps its official budget extremely low at 1.2%. They don't even have the guts to raise the official public budget much higher. Afraid that its neighbour might accuse China of "militarism". Even though those countries are raising their budgets 20-30% per year these days and stating explicit goals to go to 3-5% of GDP.

If China doesn't start getting more aggressive, they will face irreversible losses. Especially if Japan or Sk tries to get nukes.

Can't build much??? Who's building more? You believe China's military budget is what it says? You think China's military can't get enough money or will be refused if they can spend it right? Why do we have to declare an official budget and be truthful to it? The West told you that you need to declare it? How about we tell them the classified parameters of J-20/36/50 too?

Keep your aggression smouldering in your heart ready to explode when you need it. Don't wear it on your sleeve and bark about it.

 

[TPenglake]

The Soviet Union didn't just prop up aligned governments through aid. Giving them advice and access to trade and technology is critical to show the population that they're benefiting from the relationship with the Soviets.

Yes and this is a map of how many countries globally outside the Eastern Bloc were aligned with the Soviet Union vis a vis the US. (Obviously we can take China out, because of the Sino-Soviet split)

Honestly kind of pathetic if these were the guys who got shit done while China dithers.

Even if such a map doesn't exist, let's play with another experiment. A map of right wing leaders loudly proclaiming they would sever ties with China in favor of the US during election season and then walked back on it. Even more fun, a list of countries that have totally severed trade ties withe PRC to trade solely with the US and her allies.

 

[GZDRefugee]

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133% of usual activity at Domino's. Something is going down.

 

[Randomuser]

Yes and this is a map of how many countries globally outside the Eastern Bloc were aligned with the Soviet Union vis a vis the US. (Obviously we can take China out, because of the Sino-Soviet split)
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Honestly kind of pathetic if these were the guys who got shit done while China dithers.

Even if such a map doesn't exist, let's play with another experiment. A map of right wing leaders loudly proclaiming they would sever ties with China in favor of the US during election season and then walked back on it. Even more fun, a list of countries that have totally severed trade ties withe PRC to trade solely with the US and her allies.

Apart from putting pressure on Vietnam to leave Cambodia, I never understood why China attacked Vietnam to show that Russia couldn't help it directly despite their so called alliance or threats.

Well now I kinda get it. Eventually Vietnam had to leave Cambodia because the USSR simply had no more indirect aid to give after years of attrition.

And now we see its not exactly a modern thing.

 

[generalmeng]

Unless government is reducing the tax rate, more GDP means more taxes. Besides, China is one of the least taxed countries in the world. China's current tax burden is about 20% of GDP, which is significantly lower than US and western countries. So, No, money is not a problem.

The problem is overall government strategy, which is hide and bide and much lower military spending. Anyways, we will see if China's current approach of timidity in foreign policy and lower defense spending will be successful or not. If China cannot prevent countries from falling into US dominance and US allies like Japan and SK get nukes without a military response from China. I would consider that a failure.

It is absolutely existential for China stop SK and Japan from getting nukes. They must be willing to fight a war for it. Otherwize, the more weak US gets, the more they will go for nukes.

one can say, in the USA, tax is a way to get public money into private pockets