That’s like a eunuch fantasizing about bedding Scarlett Johansson — they may wish all they want but at the end of the day they simply don’t have the right tool for the job.
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Whatever you are smoking, I want to have some.
J-20 production alone already exceeds 100 per year, not to mention J-15, J-16, Y-9, and Y-20 variants. Even if only 100 fighters were added, that number is still larger than the airforce of most nations. The number of "few cheap surface ships" launched last year also exceeds the size of most navies.
Equipment also don't operate by themselves. Increase any faster and China will run into personal shortage, if aren't running into personal shortage already.
US and the west is in long term decline no doubt. But one of the ways China and anti-western forces can gain victory is by convincing the global south to be more pro-China and resist the US. This can only happen the global south countries feel US is in decline and can see that the countries that do resist are succeeding.
Instead what do we see, all the anti-western countries are falling like dominoes. Syria was gone despite Russian military intervention, axis of resistance is battered badly, Iran almost on the way out, Russia is severely weakend and finally now Venezuela has been neutralized easily.
Overall, all the western opponents are being neutralized one by one and China seems to be just standing and doing nothing to save them. If there is a color revolution in Russia, then China will be pretty much the only one standing, all alone, facing the brunt of the west.
I don't think these happenings are positive optics for any new country willing to defy the US and be more friendly to China.
Russia isn't gonna have a color revolution. They are neither stupid or gullible. Same trick doesn't work twice.
China's civillian production numbers for pretty much everything is several times US numbers. So, if they were serious about military production, they can easily produce 300 fighter jets per year, produce whole lot more nuclear and non nuclear submarines along with more surface destroyers and cruisers, they can also produce enough tanks and other armored vehicles to completely replace all the old models.
1.4 billion population is certainly not a problem getting more recruits. Training can be expedited as well. Besides, its not like China is going expand the military. Just replacing old hardware with newer stuff much faster is not going to need more recruits.
The problem is the will to spend more. I always say, China is still in hide and bide mode when it comes to the military. They are still worried about the optics of appearing too aggressive and try to show how they are not raising military budget that much.
You know, the fact that the US had to send troops to Venezuela instead of just letting a colour revolution take care of it like all previous cases means the CIA must be slacking off compared to before. Needing to use your own troops and expose yourself usually is one of the last options.
Anyway as for Iran, I said in the war thread that Iran bought itself some time to learn. Clearly it still hasn't really learnt unfortunately. Even if they got away with it last time, if they don't fix the root cause, one day it's gonna be their turn. You can't say I need more time when a country like Israel is involved. They're not serious about it.
Guess we will have to see what happens next.
Anyway as for Iran, I said in the war thread that Iran bought itself some time to learn. Clearly it still hasn't really learnt unfortunately. Even if they got away with it last time, if they don't fix the root cause, one day it's gonna be their turn. You can't say I need more time when a country like Israel is involved. They're not serious about it.
Guess we will have to see what happens next.
China's newly built naval vessels in a single year are almost equal to the entire French navy. Why do you still think China's military spending is insufficient?
China benefits from the low-cost manufacturing capabilities of a complete industrial chain. What $300 billion can accomplish in China, the US might not be able to do even with nearly a trillion dollars.
Maintaining reasonable military spending is extremely beneficial to China's long-term planning. China won't be like that crazy guy next door, constantly thinking "the rise and fall of the empire hinges on this one battle."
I don’t think so. Ground reality is that they need to collaborate with the PRC regardless. If complete cucks like Milei need to grudgingly cooperate with China, what chances do less radical global south leaders have?
Because China's opponents are not going to let China be comfortable with their current trajectory. They are reacting to China's strategy and their reaction is to be more aggressive now when they still have the upper hand. Japan is rapidly boosting its military budget and is hoping to get nukes while China is still too timid to make moves. Taiwan is also getting extremely aggressive about acquiring more weaponry.
US and the west are also quite aggressive about not only boosting up the military, but using it to take out opponents to clear the field before focusing on China.
Ever since Trump 1, China has been nothing but reactive to US moves. Every US sanctions, bans or aggressive action against Chinese companies or Chinese investments have caught China flatfooted. Yes, they have been able to survive until now with more investments on the tech front, but overall they have been reactive rather than pro-active.
If China doesn't boost up the military soon and also start acting more aggressive, their current comfortable existance could cause long term damage to their future.