US conflict in the Americas

[GodRektsNoobs]

Here is my 2 cents. If rumors were true and the Chinese envoy was talking with Maduro for three hours before the kidnapping, it's quite likely that they were working out terms of surrender. Its likely that China and US already agreed on the surrender of Maduro, and the US SoF were simply escorting him out. If China and Maduro agreed to resist, it wouldn't take them three hours to decide that. Recall 2022 Ukraine-Russia negotiations. It took both sides 3 days to agree on the terms, but only a 5 minute phone call from Boris Johnson to delete all that progress.

We'll see what happens to Maduro in the future. If he gets a slap-on-the-wrist treatment, then it's likely that everything was arranged beforehand.

As for the terms of the surrender and what China got out of it, I guess we'll see.

 

[plawolf]

Real question is does anyone still remember that Guaido is the rightful president of Venezuela???

It doesn’t look like he remembers himself since he has missed the one opportunity he has been waiting for all his life to jump out of the woodworks and claim the presidency of Venezuela.

 

[iewgnem]

It's basically the US coming out and saying we removed Maduro to send a message to China (ie "show China who's the real boss").

It's a classic "kill the chicken to scare the monkey" tactic, much like the US's recent moves in Syria and Iran.

But I think China won't fall for it.

That kinda depend on if they can actually change the regime, because all China's seeing right now is Trump clearly reluctant to commit any boot on ground.

I mean China doesn't really care who runs the country so long as its cooperative with China, and right now even Trump understand Venezuela's "opposition" headed by Machado is over.

 

[solarz]

That kinda depend on if they can actually change the regime, because all China's seeing right now is Trump clearly reluctant to commit any boot on ground.

I mean China doesn't really care who runs the country so long as its cooperative with China, and right now even Trump understand Venezuela's "opposition" headed by Machado is over.

Trump said he wanted to run things in Venezuela. Kind of hard to do that without an occupation force.

 

[iewgnem]

Trump said he wanted to run things in Venezuela. Kind of hard to do that without an occupation force.

Indeed, which means unless they put boots on ground and commit US to a long term occupation it will turn out pretty funny.

 

[texx1]

Not a single MANPADS fired at low flying helicopters during the brazen decapitation strike, Maduro's security force performed worse than Somali warlords' militia. At least Aidid's militia got two blackhawks with just RPGs.

 

[FriedButter]

Pretty sure they were bought out with money

 

[Atomicfrog]

For whom? The oligarchs? Sure. The American nation? No.

The US is not a citizen centric or well-being nation... but you are free to be well ?

 

[TK3600]

Fvck no.

Apart from what @Blitzo has explained - If that PLA base is attacked by the US military, how is China supposed to provide meaningful support to the PLA troops stationed there in time from half the globe away? And who else can assist PLA troops stationed there?

Then again - Is China ready to flip the table and go to war with the US because of that, especially considering how it's actually China, not the US, who has military bases and facilities of the opposing side spread right across her frontyard?

The base is not for fighting Americans, it is a bastion for intelligence operation to keep things together, just the same as American bases elsewhere.

 

[_killuminati_]

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