US conflict in the Americas

[Blitzo]

This could have all been avoided by putting a PLA base in Venezuela.

That's not the way it works.
A PLA base in Venezuela would mean nothing unless the PRC was willing to go to war over Venezuela. Otherwise what happens at best is that any notional PLA base just gets bypassed, or they offer a token resistance, and neutralized, and it is in the PRC court as to whether they want to escalate.

It's a shame that nobody is stepping up to fight America. China gave Venezuela billions in loans for oil, not sure if much of that has been repaid.

Again, that's not the way any of this works. The US resolve and capability to mess with Venezuela is many times greater than the PRC interest and capability to actually defend Venezuela.


Basic geopolitics.
The side with greater function of "resolve x capability" will ultimately prevail. It is when both sides have (or believe they have) similar "resolve x capability" is when things get dicey and you see conflict.

 

[tankphobia]

There really is no way to assess that vis-a-vis Venezuela's intelligence services.

There's also no widespread political discontent against the government from the general population in tw. You wouldn't get your president captured in a 2 hour operation if all your inner circle didn't betray you. The military surely must have basically stood down for this operation considering the lack of US casualties with how brazen the entry was.

Comparing tw to this is asinine.

 

[latenlazy]

There's also no widespread political discontent against the government from the general population in tw. You wouldn't get your president captured in a 2 hour operation if all your inner circle didn't betray you. The military surely must have basically stood down for this operation considering the lack of US casualties with how brazen the entry was.

Comparing tw to this is asinine.

Some of Lai’s cabinet assistants were spies. Will just leave it at that.

 

[Neurosmith]

There's also no widespread political discontent against the government from the general population in tw. You wouldn't get your president captured in a 2 hour operation if all your inner circle didn't betray you. The military surely must have basically stood down for this operation considering the lack of US casualties with how brazen the entry was.

Comparing tw to this is asinine.

The latest rumor is that Maduro's inner circle essentially sold him out in what seems to be a backroom deal with the US; a "negotiated exit" seems to be euphemism being thrown around. Maduro doesn't exactly appeal to his people when they have been starving for years under a socialist, corrupt, & hyper-inflated economy while he dines at one of Salt Bae's steakhouses.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

This could have all been avoided by putting a PLA base in Venezuela. It's a shame that nobody is stepping up to fight America. China gave Venezuela billions in loans for oil, not sure if much of that has been repaid.

Fvck no.

Apart from what @Blitzo has explained - If that PLA base is attacked by the US military, how is China supposed to provide meaningful support to the PLA troops stationed there in time from half the globe away? And who else can assist PLA troops stationed there?

Then again - Is China ready to flip the table and go to war with the US because of that, especially considering how it's actually China, not the US, who has military bases and facilities of the opposing side spread right across her frontyard?

 

[talonn]

So what will happen to Maduro? Needle? Gas? Firing squad? Surely Trump/US has no need for him to be alive? Hmm hmm hmm...

 

[enroger]

The best thing China could have done is ship drones and manpads to Venezuela before hands, it is probably too late for that now.

 

[bsdnf]

The best thing China could have done is ship drones and manpads to Venezuela before hands, it is probably too late for that now.

No amount of weaponry would make a difference; the Venezuelan army also has Igla, but they just dont used it.

 

[symplectic]

The best thing China could have done is ship drones and manpads to Venezuela before hands, it is probably too late for that now.

no, obviously the problem is not the weapons, but the people holding them

 

[douglaxd]

How is it even possible for a country possessing thousands of Igla to be unable to hit a single numerous low-flying chinooks above the.. capital? I'm aware these aircraft in particular have more extensive countermeasures like DIRCM but... seems off..