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siegecrossbow

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Christmas gift(s) for 2024:
- J-36
- J-XDS/50
- KJ-3000
- WZ-9
- 076 LHD-51 Sichuan

Christmas gift(s) for 2025:
- Containerized weapon, radar and sensor on a cargo ship

"Man, that's one hell of a downgrade!"
"Blame the economy, duh"
This is because the stuff you listed needed to be ready for MIC 2025. Now that the checkpoint has been reached we won’t see as many radical new developments.
 

OedoSoldier

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The one detail that makes me a little dubious that this container destroyer is real is the Type730/1130 at the front.

Those guns pack some serious kick, so it would require some serious structural bracing to allow the containers to support it. Especially when it’s stacked so high up. Of course it’s doable, but just seems needlessly making things hard on yourself when a HQ10 launcher in the same position would be far easier from a structural engineering POV, as well as providing better air defence capabilities.

The only justification I can think of for choosing the gun based CIWS is if it’s meant to offer some secondary direct fire defences against close by surface threats like drone boats and/or small coast guard cutters and the like, for long range independent operations far from friendly naval support.
CIWS has already been installed on trucks and wheeled chassis, I don't think this would be a case
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tphuang

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oh boy, at minimum. They can used at decoy. At worst case, all the fears of Pentagon of Chinese container ships containing missile launchers. We can see where that came from.

Remember, it was US reports that we first heard about this.
 

Gloire_bb

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I do see the extra structural strengthening though. Besides, the actual strengthening would be mostly on the inside of the container(s).
Reinforcement will be on the ship(immeduate conclusion is that ZhongDa is originally configured to be MMC) and in supporting containers. Which is an absolutely normal historical practice, to be fair.
Recoil force from working 1130 will be in order of 10t, that's a lot.
 

Blitzo

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I wondered for a moment whether the placement of the radar might end up irradiating the crew in the bridge/superstructure, but I suppose the radar can probably be configured to avoid emitting whenever the arrays rotate facing the superstructure, fairly doable for a modern AESA.
That would create a minor blind spot, but this isn't exactly intended to be a proper AAW ship anyhow.
 

OedoSoldier

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I wondered for a moment whether the placement of the radar might end up irradiating the crew in the bridge/superstructure, but I suppose the radar can probably be configured to avoid emitting whenever the arrays rotate facing the superstructure, fairly doable for a modern AESA.
That would create a minor blind spot, but this isn't exactly intended to be a proper AAW ship anyhow.
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The AESA antenna is actually positioned higher than the bridge, and the two radar systems are installed on both sides of the ship to prevent obstructing the view from the bridge.
 
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