QBZ-191 service rifle family

no_name

Colonel
If qbz95 is designed around the gun barrel. Then the qbz191 is designed around the picatinny rail and what can be attached to it.

PLA soldiers are not cannon fodders but distributed sensor nodes. The gun is not just a weapon and it is really questionable how much casualty can be inflicted by rifles in the wars that the PLA is gonna envision fighting in. The gun is likely a communication/designation stick in the future. As long as a single PLA soldier is alive and holding a point, he is a sensory node that can call on indirect fire much more than what he can personally deliver. Where as before we see PLA trying to cram as much firepower at the squad level, in the future there would be some units where the squad size might even be reduced, and reliance on personally bringing heavy firepower to the fight might be de-emphasized a bit.

I think the Russian/Ukraine war gave people a feel that wars are still about getting people into trenches and filling the lines. I don't think the PLA is gonna fight that way even if they are taking notes, and it would be not wise for other countries to assume that a conflict with the PLA is gonna evolve in that direction.
 

baozi

Just Hatched
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看起来QBZ-191比M4A1和HK416更有竞争力。我不知道它的价格是多少,但如果价格合适(和M4一样在1000美元左右),那么对于第三世界国家的警察和精锐部队来说,它将是一个不错的选择。

我不知道是谁、又为什么觉得采购QBZ-97B是个好主意。有意思的是,我们可以使用三种出口口径中的任何一种。
我不知道翻译是否准确,但原文中“下瞄准器,3级”的意思是觇孔瞄准器调到3级。我查了一下,意思是我用95-1从来没打过50发子弹,但我第一次用191就打中了50发。这意味着191的单发精度比95-1更高,连发精度也一样。我还记得我拿着191站岗的时候(我们是南方地区第一个换用191和新单兵装备的部队),其他部队的士兵都羡慕地看着我,这对我来说已经足够了。: 凉爽的:
 

Boneroyalx

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我不知道翻译是否准确,但原文中“下瞄准器,3级”的意思是觇孔瞄准器调到3级。我查了一下,意思是我用95-1从来没打过50发子弹,但我第一次用191就打中了50发。这意味着191的单发精度比95-1更高,连发精度也一样。我还记得我拿着191站岗的时候(我们是南方地区第一个换用191和新单兵装备的部队),其他部队的士兵都羡慕地看着我,这对我来说已经足够了。: 凉爽的:
Ok. So the rear sight has been dialed to 3. Is that position 300 meters? It does imply the qbz-191's iron sights are more comfortable or easier to use than the old bull pups.

I thought that shooting 50 rings meant that each soldier got 50 rounds and had to land as many shots on the target as possible. The dude only got perfect score with the qbz-191.

The person mentioned that the recoil during burst fire isn't that different as the qbz-95-1, but the videos I watched of the PAP had the qbz-191 having almost non-existent recoil and muzzle climb, while with qbz-95 they tended to have more violent shaking.
 

Aniah

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我不知道翻译是否准确,但原文中“下瞄准器,3级”的意思是觇孔瞄准器调到3级。我查了一下,意思是我用95-1从来没打过50发子弹,但我第一次用191就打中了50发。这意味着191的单发精度比95-1更高,连发精度也一样。我还记得我拿着191站岗的时候(我们是南方地区第一个换用191和新单兵装备的部队),其他部队的士兵都羡慕地看着我,这对我来说已经足够了。: 凉爽的:
Just a heads up, but you must post in English here on this site.
 

baozi

Just Hatched
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Ok. So the rear sight has been dialed to 3. Is that position 300 meters? It does imply the qbz-191's iron sights are more comfortable or easier to use than the old bull pups.

I thought that shooting 50 rings meant that each soldier got 50 rounds and had to land as many shots on the target as possible. The dude only got perfect score with the qbz-191.

The person mentioned that the recoil during burst fire isn't that different as the qbz-95-1, but the videos I watched of the PAP had the qbz-191 having almost non-existent recoil and muzzle climb, while with qbz-95 they tended to have more violent shaking.
The recoil of the 95 and 191 is almost the same for me, maybe it is the length of the gun and the user's holding position.
No problem. You mentioned you were one of the first units to get issued the new rifle, is it?

Was that your first rifle, or you used the qbz-95 before that?
I have used 95 and 95-1
 

sabiothailand

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The recoil of the 95 and 191 is almost the same for me, maybe it is the length of the gun and the user's holding position.

I have used 95 and 95-1
Have you tried different gun holding methods, like a C-clamp?

See if the recoil on the 191 rifle feels different. I saw Chinese PAP does that and it's recoil seems smaller than the 95 rifle.
 
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