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[Sardaukar20]

Reposting this post from scs thread, lndia sent warships in SCS for PH india patrol/exercise.

Pathetic, but its good news for me. I was slightly concerned that India and China are reaching some kinda weak rapprochement. This should help to reinforce that that is not happening anytime soon.

Frankly I personally dont get why opt for SSBN's they seem more expensive/hassle to operate and their big advantage is..operational time under the sea..? But India's primary threat is right next to them, not oceans across so whats the point of this (unless its geared towards China more)

From a purely military argument, India would need SSBNs just in case it suffers a crippling first-strike from Pakistan.

But knowing India, their SSBNs would also be used for boasting Supapowar prestige and to threaten other countries. The Arihant-class was often boasted by the Indian media to able to target China. Some Indian media personalities had even threatened Canada with India's SSBNs for their role in supporting the Khalistani Independence movement. Apart from the US and UK, India is perhaps the only other nation who likes to use their SSBNs for boasting and threats.

 

[Tomboy]

Apart from the US and UK, India is perhaps the only other nation who likes to use their SSBNs for boasting and threats.

Well, atleast British and American SSBNs are actually world class

 

[Randomuser]

I always wondered where India gets it confidence regarding its navy. There's not exactly many opponents to prove its worth in recent times.

And before some go China doesn't either. Actually it does. Those US warships keep giving opportunities by showing up uninvited for China to observe and test near Taiwan. In fact China has some of the toughest opponents to constantly prepare for.

 

[4Tran]

Frankly I personally dont get why opt for SSBN's they seem more expensive/hassle to operate and their big advantage is..operational time under the sea..? But India's primary threat is right next to them, not oceans across so whats the point of this (unless its geared towards China more)

It's less about whether it makes sense for India and more about looking at what proper superpowers have and wanting the same thing. It's the same about India talking about getting strategic bombers. It's not something that India has any need for (and likely won't want to maintain), and might actually weaken its strategic standing. But that doesn't matter because if it's something that raises India's prestige, then they might persue it anyways.

 

[tamsen_ikard]

I always wondered where India gets it confidence regarding its navy. There's not exactly many opponents to prove its worth in recent times.

India dreams of blockading China in the Malacca strait and then sending carrier fleets to Bomb shanghai. They are delusions are on a completely different level

 

[gelgoog]

I think a bomber for naval interdition like the Soviets used the Tu-22M might make sense for India. But not the Tu-160.

 

[Randomuser]

India dreams of blockading China in the Malacca strait and then sending carrier fleets to Bomb shanghai. They are delusions are on a completely different level

The malacca strait strategy makes me confused. First of all it's in SEA not India. It has no business there. Blocking it off means it's invading SEA.

Second of all, not only China uses it but all of SEA and east Asia. You're not only try to hurt China but pretty everyone else east of India. How on earth is that gonna end well for India? You're basically driving them all in China's hands temporarily for the common interest of all. With them helping China, you have a very hard time keeping the blockade as well as a lot of enemies.

Maybe Jai Hinds love it because it makes them feel important but I'm scratching my head about it.

 

[bebops]

India dropped the F35 deal because it is a bad machine or a dud. It has a long history of crashing, software issues, and grounding.

I think India will buy their 4.5 and 5th gen planes from Turkey or South Korea.

 

[valysre]

India dropped the F35 deal because it is a bad machine or a dud.

Indians on the Internet spent the 3 months after May 7th bashing the Su-57 and singing the praises of the F-35, and then the moment the US put tariffs on India, they immediately turned around and started bashing the F-35.

The IAF itself has no plan for future procurement. I think they know that regardless of what fancy plane they purchase, they are bottlenecked by an ancient AWACS fleet and general incompatibility between the 4-5 (?) different countries India sources its equipment from.

 

[4Tran]

I think a bomber for naval interdition like the Soviets used the Tu-22M might make sense for India. But not the Tu-160.

The problem is naval interdiction against whom? The only power that operates in the Indian Ocean is the USN, and there's no reason for India to pick a fight against them. There's a possibility that the PLAN will start using the Djibouti base more extensively, but that's not really where the fight is going to be.

Once upon a time, the Indian Navy did look into acquiring some Russian bombers; I believe they were Tu-95s. But that was for naval reconnaissance, not for interdiction.

And there are some severe drawbacks for getting strategic bombers. First off, nobody is going to sell them to India. There are only three countries that make them, and we can remove China and the US immediately. Russia is a possibility, but as strategic bombers point directly at China, and Russia needs China a lot more than they need India, they're not going to sell either.

The malacca strait strategy makes me confused. First of all it's in SEA not India. It has no business there. Blocking it off means it's invading SEA.

Second of all, not only China uses it but all of SEA and east Asia. You're not only try to hurt China but pretty everyone else east of India. How on earth is that gonna end well for India? You're basically driving them all in China's hands temporarily for the common interest of all. With them helping China, you have a very hard time keeping the blockade as well as a lot of enemies.

Maybe Jai Hinds love it because it makes them feel important but I'm scratching my head about it.

The idea comes from people who aren't thinking this through, and don't really care about the consequences. All that matters is India stronk!

India dropped the F35 deal because it is a bad machine or a dud. It has a long history of crashing, software issues, and grounding.

I think India will buy their 4.5 and 5th gen planes from Turkey or South Korea.

Pakistan is part of the Kaan program so Turkey is out. I think more and more that the KF-21 makes quite a bit of sense. India needs both 4.5 and 5 gen fighters, and the KF-21 is supposed to be able to deliver both.

Personally, I don't think the F-35 is a bad plane, but it's also not a plane that fixes any of India's problems. For that, there has to be some major reform in the IAF (and the Indian military, and the Indian government, and the Indian society), but I don't think India has the stomach for that.