2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

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PLAwatcher12 said:
You need to read up on the Geneva Conventions and children have died but you can’t kill a person not engaged in combat
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At this point the EU and US unconditional support for both Israel and Ukraine to the point of whitewashing war crimes has rendered the Geneva Convention into the Geneva Suggestions. Just like they have basically defanged the ICC showing it was mostly a tool against Africa and Yugoslavia

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935694926609801249
 
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PLAwatcher12 said:
You need to read up on the Geneva Conventions and children have died but you can’t kill a person not engaged in combat
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IDF is been engaged in combat against both Palestinans and Iran, but
this is a serious matter, how about Iran launch an invesgation into if any non IDF were killed and get back to you... wait they just finished their investgation and found no non combatant were killed.

Speaking of which your thoughts on ICC arrest warrant on Bibi?
 
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BillRamengod said:
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Regarding why Iran has drastically reduced the number of missile attacks on Israeli territory in recent days, and why it has shifted from launching massive salvos of hundreds or dozens of missiles to rare barrages—even beginning to fire single medium-range ballistic missiles with a range of 2,000 kilometers.

Known missile bases are marked in red, bombed sites in blue, and sites currently under attack in yellow.

Due to Israeli strikes on launchers, missile bases, and storage facilities, Iran has gradually lost the ability to use large-scale ballistic missiles (with a range of up to 1,600 km) stationed in the western part of the country. It is now forced to rely on individual long-range missiles (approximately 2,000 km) launched from deep within its territory.
Source: MiddleEastBuka

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I world be wary of listening to the theories of these Twitter OSINT guys.

These are claims that the IDF itself hasn't even made about neutralizing bases. They have struck entrances and shared as few pictures. Today for example, they showed a strike on an excavator, but patrolling an area that large seems like a stretch. Hard to know though. If we don't see any of the 1400 km range missiles in the next few days maybe that is a strong indicator.
 
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plawolf said:
One factor to consider is that Israeli air bases are likely much better protected than their cities, both in terms of density of interceptors, as well as the quality of the SAM systems present.

Indeed, the spamming of Iron Dome interceptors may well be intended to help cover for the lack of more advanced systems deployed to defend Israeli cities.

I would expect that perhaps the reason for why Iran is focusing its attacks so much against Israeli cities instead of air bases is that the BDA from the earlier salvos showed poor penetration against Israeli air bases.

As such, Iran is hitting Israeli cities to get more bang for their missiles for the cameras; deal serious economic and industrial pain to Israel, as well build up public pressure to end the city raids; potentially even Iran deliberately firing small missile salvos to give the impression of them weakening. All of which are aimed to try to get Israel to redeploy some of its air defences from air bases to their cities. Once that happens, Iran can launch a massive salvo at Israeli air bases seeking to deal serious damage to their air power.
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I think you're equating availability of footage with events
Israel also have total control over video footage near and inside airbases while there are too many people in cities to prevent upload.

Iron Dome isn't BM interceptors and BM interceptors don't need to be placed at the target to work, Israel is a very small place only 70km across, BM intercept coverage zone doesn't necessarily differentiate between bases and cities.

Iran is hitting a lot of things including economic and industrial targets, but the lack of video, or Israeli admission of military targets being hit under a strict censorship regime does not in itself prove anything. All we can say is Iran has the ability to target airfields.
 
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Intention said:
I world be wary of listening to the theories of these Twitter OSINT guys.

These are claims that the IDF itself hasn't even made about neutralizing bases. They have struck entrances and shared as few pictures. Today for example, they showed a strike on an excavator, but patrolling an area that large seems like a stretch. Hard to know though. If we don't see any of the 1400 km range missiles in the next few days maybe that is a strong indicator.
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I wonder if IDF use US air bases in Syria and Iraq instead of returning to their home base? It can add more range to Iran. But maybe there are some kind of circumstance that prevent them to do it? Or my question is why they need to return to Israel when they can just land at US airbase in Syria. It's safer and closer to Iran. As Iran won't bomb that airbase like when they land at Israel airbase?
 
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neutralobserver said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935590335687668146
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That’s horrible but 2 wrongs don’t a right
iewgnem said:
IDF is been engaged in combat against both Palestinans and Iran, but
this is a serious matter, how about Iran launch an invesgation into if any non IDF were killed and get back to you... wait they just finished their investgation and found no non combatant were killed.

Speaking of which your thoughts on ICC arrest warrant on Bibi?
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If they found him accused of war crimes he should be arrested, I don’t support him in any way I think he’s a horrible leader
 
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