2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

[RottenPanzer]

is it likely true or not that israel has free reign over iranian airspace? that's the line going around but you'd expect more sorties and evidence for it.

They still flown their vintage aircrafts it seems, though there are claims that whether it is F-4 or Yak-130.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1934918370731634795

And also yesterday they launch their Ballistic missiles round on day time.
So yeah, not a complete air dominance.

 

[PLAwatcher12]

1 - It's statistically extremely unlikely for anyone to video shooting down of individual drones if it's visible at all, only during mass operations can it happen and its still very unlikely
2 - Iran did claim they shot down a few dozen drones, it doesn't matter either way because you can't prove an attack has been stopped.
3 - AD can also work by preventing operations through radar warning receiver
4 - A drone can be recorded on video before getting shot down you know.

You know it's funny because the west spent 3 years claiming Russia has no air superiority over Ukraine even though Russia bombs Ukraine left right and center and their RAF drops dozens FAB on Ukrainian positions daily, but Israel hasn't even demonstrated a fraction of daily Russian operations over Ukraine and they're eager to proclaim air dominance.

It's ok, with Isreal getting bombed daily, banning people from leaving and begging for American help nobody still think you are "strong", you can let it go.

A drone was literally operating over Iran in board daylight waiting a minute or so for an millitary target than hit the target. The matter of fact is Irans AD is severely damaged if not entirely gone by now. Iran also claimed they shot down multiple F-35s too so I take their claims with a grain of salt

Kinda ironic and sobering that Israelis once mighty and much hyped AD is now reduced to doing minimal percentage intercept attempts primarily as displays of defiance like Iraqi AD during Desert Storm.

No wonder they are desperate for America to jump in and save them.

If Trump does get involved, he could have bought the mother of all lemons.

most of the missiles Iran launches still get shot down but more are getting though

 

[RottenPanzer]

A drone was literally operating over Iran in board daylight waiting a minute or so for an millitary target than hit the target. The matter of fact is Irans AD is severely damaged if not entirely gone by now.

That drone claim has been quite disputed. The Iranians claimed that those are Shahed-129 from their own side.

 

[PLAwatcher12]

That drone claim has been quite disputed. The Iranians claimed that those are Shahed-129 from their own side.

Why would Iran launch an shahed-129 to destroy their own AD or missile launcher?

 

[gelgoog]

Why would Iran launch an shahed-129 to destroy their own AD or missile launcher?

Iran could be using drones to try to spot sabotage teams.

 

[RottenPanzer]

Why would Iran launch an shahed-129 to destroy their own AD or missile launcher?

I'm specifically talking of this one claimed

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1934969589516882002

Though i would like add further that in the quoted tweet, a pro-Israeli account just posted a supposed Israeli Hermes series drone over Kermanshah.
So as i say, slip ups may exist especially how low RCS are these drones and not to mention the way the flown being low enough for camera to capture.

 

[PLAwatcher12]

Iran could be using drones to try to spot sabotage teams.

You wouldn’t blow up your own AD or missile launchers though, unless of course your really incompetent

 

[FriedRiceNSpice]

It isn’t limited operations though

Distance, tanker availability, and number of planes are all limiting factors in Israeli sortie generation. IAF can achieve temporary local air superiority but lack persistence.

 

[pokepara]

Iran, just now, is claiming to have shot down another f-35.

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عاجل | قائمقام مدينة ورامين جنوب شرقي #طهران: الدفاعات الجوية أسقطت مقاتلة إف35 صهيونية في منطقة جواد آباد

Urgent | Mayor of the city of Waramin, southeast of #Tehran: Air defenses shot down a Zionist F-35 fighter in the Jawadabad area

Considering f-35s seem to regularly fall out of the sky for no apparent reason, I could believe it. Hope Iran shows proof though.

 

[PLAwatcher12]

Iran, just now, is claiming to have shot down another f-35.

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عاجل | قائمقام مدينة ورامين جنوب شرقي #طهران: الدفاعات الجوية أسقطت مقاتلة إف35 صهيونية في منطقة جواد آباد

Urgent | Mayor of the city of Waramin, southeast of #Tehran: Air defenses shot down a Zionist F-35 fighter in the Jawadabad area

Considering f-35s seem to regularly fall out of the sky for no apparent reason, I could believe it. Hope Iran shows proof though.

If this information was at all true they would show proof, it would be so good for propaganda giving the fact they haven’t, im guessing it’s fake