2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

gelgoog

Lieutenant General
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is it likely true or not that israel has free reign over iranian airspace? that's the line going around but you'd expect more sorties and evidence for it.
Thus far I have seen no evidence for Israeli air superiority. It could happen eventually but I doubt it will be as easy as some people think.
What seems to be happening is drones operated by infiltrators.
 

PLAwatcher12

Junior Member
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Thus far I have seen no evidence for Israeli air superiority. It could happen eventually but I doubt it will be as easy as some people think.
What seems to be happening is drones operated by infiltrators.
If Iran isn’t able to shoot down the drones and they can fly freely then I would consider that a form of air superiority
 

Randomuser

Captain
Registered Member
It is still a very different identity than Arab. Historically, Arab armies since the 1900s have not done well, and I believe Iran is proving more resilient.
Lets just cut the summary short before this grows off topic. Iran are not Arabs. They are different both ethnically and culturally although of course there will be similarities. Therefore the way they approach things is different from the typical Arab state. Same as Turkey. Its no wonder these guys seem a lot different from the rest and why they both had large empires even as of recent times.

Israel which has been used to fighting Arabs is now finding out Iran is a bit different. How well it will handle it has yet to be seen.
 

iewgnem

Senior Member
Registered Member
If Iran isn’t able to shoot down the drones and they can fly freely then I would consider that a form of air superiority
1 - It's statistically extremely unlikely for anyone to video shooting down of individual drones if it's visible at all, only during mass operations can it happen and its still very unlikely
2 - Iran did claim they shot down a few dozen drones, it doesn't matter either way because you can't prove an attack has been stopped.
3 - AD can also work by preventing operations through radar warning receiver
4 - A drone can be recorded on video before getting shot down you know.

You know it's funny because the west spent 3 years claiming Russia has no air superiority over Ukraine even though Russia bombs Ukraine left right and center and their RAF drops dozens FAB on Ukrainian positions daily, but Israel hasn't even demonstrated a fraction of daily Russian operations over Ukraine and they're eager to proclaim air dominance.

It's ok, with Isreal getting bombed daily, banning people from leaving and begging for American help nobody still think you are "strong", you can let it go.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Hits from the latest launches from 30-45 mins ago.

Kinda ironic and sobering that Israelis once mighty and much hyped AD is now reduced to doing minimal percentage intercept attempts primarily as displays of defiance like Iraqi AD during Desert Storm.

No wonder they are desperate for America to jump in and save them.

If Trump does get involved, he could have bought the mother of all lemons.
 
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