2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

PLAwatcher12

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Even if you are pro-Israel you have to admit Israel's AD isn't doing them much good.
Iran's real AD are their underground bases and those can "intercept" basically everything, Israel's AD is all they got and it's wearing thin.
Latest attack only had 20-30 missiles in broad daylight and there were at least 8-10 hits... one of them looks like its Mossad HQ
Yes it’s getting worn out but atleast there are some interceptions made, Iran on the other hand has barley intercepted anything
 

xyz4321

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The thing about that missile launches are those could be for all we know we’re reposts and not new. And I like to be on the side of caution but what we know for a fact was very few missiles were launched today compared to the previous days. Ether Iran is planning or waiting for something or Israel has destroyed most of the launchers or stock or Israel has finally gained air superiority/supremacy causing Iran to launch less missiles each wave
If you like to be cautious, how exactly have you arrived at this "fact" in the same sentence? The only people alleging 'few missile launches today' are the Israelis themselves.

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This was the truck shown in previous pages apprehended in Iran,
 

iewgnem

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Yes it’s getting worn out but atleast there are some interceptions made, Iran on the other hand has barley intercepted anything
1 - Low altitude interceptions of small munitions are not exactly comparable in visibility to hypersonics, I find people in the west always seem to struggle with the concept of object permanence, just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
2 - Iran intercepted 100% of missiles targeting their underground facilities did they not? lol
3 - War isn't about optics (another common western mental fallacy), nobody gets a prize for trying, as it is we just had 30 Iranian missiles making 10 impacts in broad daylight (plus failed intercept raining down on themselves), the only number that matter in this calculus is how many missiles Iran has and how many targets they can hit with those missiles, and right now this calculus is looking very bad for Israel.
 

PLAwatcher12

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Israel is hitting surface hangers, it's not exactly secret Iran's facilities are underground. Considering Iran is levelling buildings across Israel on a daily basis you have to admit the claim that Israel is hitting real or meaningful number of Iranian launchers or missile storage is a bit comical.

If Israel wants to kill civilians they have plenty of civilians to kill regardless of AD, killing civilians isn't how you win wars and Israel and Israeli supporter such as yourself's belief killing civilians will turn them against their own government is why Israel is now in this mess.
I don’t belive that at all, Israel is still hitting basically anything they want with nothing stopping it. My point about the civilians is you saying their hiding their AD so their not destroyed so Iran is willing to risk the lives of civilians and not trying to protect them a little bit so their AD systems don’t get hit. They would rather lose launchers and missile bases instead of actually using AD systems. Now I don’t belive Iran is that incompetent
 

iewgnem

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I don’t belive that at all, Israel is still hitting basically anything they want with nothing stopping it. My point about the civilians is you saying their hiding their AD so their not destroyed so Iran is willing to risk the lives of civilians and not trying to protect them a little bit so their AD systems don’t get hit. They would rather lose launchers and missile bases instead of actually using AD systems. Now I don’t belive Iran is that incompetent
If Israel is hitting everything they want then they must not want to hit the missiles that Iran is raining down on them on a daily basis
AD's job is to protect the object you wish to protect from aerial attacks, Iran's underground facility check all boxes there.

Your problem is you're confusing terrorist attacks against civilians with fighting a war, which isn't surprising for an Israel supporter.
 

tamsen_ikard

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I don’t belive that at all, Israel is still hitting basically anything they want with nothing stopping it. My point about the civilians is you saying their hiding their AD so their not destroyed so Iran is willing to risk the lives of civilians and not trying to protect them a little bit so their AD systems don’t get hit. They would rather lose launchers and missile bases instead of actually using AD systems. Now I don’t belive Iran is that incompetent
The purpose of Iran's very limited AD should be to focus on extremely high valued targets. Things that are valuable to the strategic forces of Iran. I don't consider tehran to be that high value. Yes, top leaders live there, but they can be replaced. What is truly high value now will be underground bases holding missile/drone stock, Nuclear plants, Uranium stockpile, Weapons factories. If Iran is able to protect these their AD is successful.
 

PLAwatcher12

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If Israel is hitting everything they want then they must not want to hit the missiles that Iran is raining down on them on a daily basis
AD's job is to protect the object you wish to protect from aerial attacks, Iran's underground facility check all boxes there.

Your problem is you're confusing terrorist attacks against civilians with fighting a war, which isn't surprising for an Israel supporter.
An underground facility can’t stop every missile, do you think it’s a good idea to hide AD systems whose role is to shoot down missiles because you don’t want them to get hurt. Irans underground facilities aren’t invincible
 
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