2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

[Randomuser]

This is beyond that. They're after all protecting Israel, not just hampering Iran.
I.e. they're acting by design against the wll of "arab street".

This isn't about Iran as much as it is about being in line.

So they're basically controlled opposition?

 

[Observer1]

Those wondering why Arab states shot down Iranian UAVs need to research the difference between (i) Sunni and Shia Islam; and (ii) Arabs and Persians. Absolutely no love lost between the Gulf Arabs and Iran, indeed Saudi has long been accused of angling for the attacks that are now after many years of threats finally occurring.

The theological differences here are overstated. Sunnis and Shias indeed have bad blood, but their hate for Israel should theoretically still be a strong cause for unity, afterall Hamas & Palestine are Sunnis.

The reason why you see these states actively engaged in interceptions of Iranian munition is because of their own politics and alliances with the US, and individual geopolitical obstacles against Iran. It's a lot more than simply one is Shia and other is Sunni.

 

[tamsen_ikard]

The theological differences here are overstated. Sunnis and Shias indeed have bad blood, but their hate for Israel should theoretically still be a strong cause for unity, afterall Hamas & Palestine are Sunnis.

The reason why you see these states actively engaged in interceptions of Iranian munition is because of their own politics and alliances with the US, and individual geopolitical obstacles against Iran. It's a lot more than simply one is Shia and other is Sunni.

Iran is a revolutionary government who want to topple status quo monarchies on the Arab states and replace them with revolutionary governments. So in a way, Iran is more aligned with Sunni Muslim brotherhood than gulf Arab monarchies. That's another reason for the enmity.

 

[another505]

Iran is a more pariah state than NK. At least NK gets PRC and Russia(whatever they can muster left) backing. Iran is surrounded by enemies and unable to make friends besides the even weaker Iraq.

If Iran leadership survives this, they need to reform and actually make some solid friends near its border even at the cost of discarding some of their major principles. Make economic reforms, improve their people's life that they are willing to support the government, not fearful of the government.

 

[tamsen_ikard]

Iran is a more pariah state than NK. At least NK gets PRC and Russia(whatever they can muster left) backing. Iran is surrounded by enemies and unable to make friends besides the even weaker Iraq.

If Iran leadership survives this, they need to reform and actually make some solid friends near its border even at the cost of discarding some of their major principles. Make economic reforms, improve their people's life that they are willing to support the government, not fearful of the government.

Not true. Iran has Russian aligned former Soviet states in the north like Turkmenistan. Afghanistan and Pakistan are also not enemies. Yes, there is no strong friendship but no enmity either.

Turkey is also not an enemy of Iran these days under erdogan. Iraq is pretty much a satellite.

Iran has very good neighborhood now compared to the past actually.

The main enemies are the gulf Arabs and Israel which are all US vassals.

 

[Sardaukar20]

This is true. I met many Iranian regime hardliners who absolutely despise hamas and Palestinians.

So many Iranian leaders and generals are dying for the sake of Palestinian people.

Just following a few pro hamas Palestinian accounts will show you they don't share the same loyalty to Iran

It goes to show how screwed up Iran's situation is.

Israel massacres Palestinians. Iran cries for its fellow Muslims and mobilizes its Shia Crescent to fight Israel for the Palestinians. Palestinians contributed to and cheered the collapse of the Shia Crescent. Iran now pays the price by losing generals and scientists to Israeli bombs. No Palestinians or Hamas have come out to fight Israel for Iran. What had Iran actually gained?

Iran said that they don't need buy new weapons? Yet their airforce is scrambling Mig-29s, F4 Phantoms, and F5 Tigers in the skies today.

 

[zyklon]

This is beyond that. They're after all protecting Israel, not just hampering Iran.
I.e. they're acting by design against the wll of "arab street".

This isn't about Iran as much as it is about being in line. Same thing when you see how american and british aircraft intercepting shaheds.
As if those 3.5 typhoons matter in general order of things, but good ally steps ahead out of their own will and on their own initiative.

Arab governments are often willing to do things for Israel's benefit at the request of the US, which provides a number of these countries with de facto security guarantees, or in some cases like Jordan, significant military and foreign aid.

While Arab governments usually won't acknowledge such efforts, they're motivated to say "yes" to the US because being in Washington's good graces isn't only advantageous to national security, but also regime security.

 

[Jaroslav]

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FFS! What's this crap about Muslim unity again?

Is this real or this is propaganda? Where did UAE intercepted Iranian drones? And what missiles?

 

[CrazyHorse]

Is this real or this is propaganda? Where did UAE intercepted Iranian drones? And what missiles?

I don’t remember any confirmed reports of launches, so likely fake news.

 

[bebops]

I can see Iran opened themselves up like the Saudi. Most of top figures in their command structure is gone.. It is almost to the point of regime change.