2025 Israel - Iranian conflict
- Thread starter Maikeru
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If Iran is smart, they have the mountains to withstand even a nuke attack. Not even a US bunker buster should be able to meaningfully damage its nuclear facilities. Its not hard to withstand conventional bombs if buried deep underground.
manqiangrexue
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If that is true, then Iran may have one last chance, to round up all its remaining scientists, have them all LIVE in Fordow, and not a single one of them comes out until its nukes are ready. I suggest they call China; we would normally not want to turn any country nuclear, but given Israel's actions, we could be helpful. But then again, I heard Iran thinks China only makes low quality shit so they can go hit rocks together until they figure it out. All good.
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Israeli sources report that 13 Iranian fighter jets were shot down in air-to-air combat, presumably BVR missiles
Yes, this attack is enough justification to cancel the npt. But the snapback of UN sanctions has a deadline in October. There can't be a nuclear test before that while the reimposition of sanctions will probably trigger the nuclear test
China is very big and was reasonably safe from foreign invasion due to its large population of men willing to fight even a superpower. China is very ethnically homogeneous and difficult to infiltrate. China didn't have to fear a superpower doing everything in its power to stop nuclearisation.
Iran doesn't have these advantages. Building a bomb 10 years ago before Iran had the ability to confidently deliver it to Israel would have been suicidal. Today it's different. Israel is attacking because the window of opportunity is closing
I'm beginning to wonder if one of the reasons Pakistan has shown more success recently compared to bigger long term nations like India or Iran is because they are a new nation so they know they don't have much power and don't have any dreams or pride about their past glories. This allows them to be more grounded and do whatever it takes to win. In contrast India and Iran have a lot of pride from their old glory days and therefore think they can take on more than they can chew. To admit otherwise hurts their pride immensely. Actually even Russia is like this but they learn from mistakes a faster. China was unfortunately also like this and needed an entire century to wake up.
Don’t forget Khomeini is stupid enough to issue a fatwa saying that developing nuclear weapons is haram. And he still has not withdrawn that fatwa. Just looking for death
Unsurprising IMO, F-4Es, F-14As and a handful of J-7s isn't going to do anything against F-35I
Pakistan considers itself the successor to the Muslim Empires of India such as the mughals and Delhi Sultanate. They consider themselves the descendents of past Muslim Conquerors. So, they do have their own "glorious" past to look back as well.