The Kashmir conflict 2025.

bsdnf

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Where were Indian S-400s in all of this? I understand that having them next to the border would be beyond stupid since Pakistan could use rocket artillery to take it out (Pakistani A-100 has a 140 km reach I believe). But S-400 has a pretty significant reach....wondering why this wasn't being used...
It is confirmed that the S-400 launched 9M96 and 40N6, and debris found near Amritsar
 

crazyinsane105

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This is where fifth gen fighters would add a lot to the fight. Instead of 30-40 missiles flying in and only hitting single digit kills, you will have 80% hit rate if there are a couple of J-35s upfront closer to the enemy vectoring in the PL-15s.
PAF acted a bit late IMO and ordered J-35s not long ago, when in reality it should have been in service right now. Had there been double the number of J-10s and two squadrons of J-35s, IAF would have been ripped to shreds that night, and they'd probably even have lost their entire AWAC and tanker fleet as well.
 

siegecrossbow

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PAF acted a bit late IMO and ordered J-35s not long ago, when in reality it should have been in service right now. Had there been double the number of J-10s and two squadrons of J-35s, IAF would have been ripped to shreds that night, and they'd probably even have lost their entire AWAC and tanker fleet as well.
It hasn’t even achieved IOC with PLAAF yet. Calm down. Also, after the masterful display on Wednesday I think stealth fighter is overmatch against IAF.
 

bsdnf

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Sometimes not even the best of us can resist:

Still, taunt from bilibili

My youth was spent with the "Pinnacle of Europe" Rafale:
✅ 4S Shop Marketing (Super Cruise, Super Maneuverability, Super Sensors, Super Maintenance)

✅ Rave reviews from 30 nations' media ("Crushing the SU-35," "Dominating the J-10")

✅ 12 combat missions, zero results (Bombing tents in Libya, chasing donkey carts in Mali)

✅ 5 contract price hikes (India: "The agreed 800 million became 2.4 billion?")

✅ 4 "myth-shattering" moments (Forced to retreat by vintage anti-air guns, locked on by J-10CE radar)

✅ 2 "redefinitions" ("Rafale isn’t 4th-gen, it’s 4.5-gen!" "It’s not 4.5-gen, it’s quasi-5th-gen!")

✅ Knocked out by a single kick in the final showdown (Pakistan: "Thanks for the invite, J-10CE + PL-15 combo—pure bliss.")
 
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crazyinsane105

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It hasn’t even achieved IOC with PLAAF yet. Calm down. Also, after the masterful display on Wednesday I think stealth fighter is overmatch against IAF.
I think overmatch is necessary in this day and age. I understand that Pakistan has gone through significant financial hurdles as well past few years (along with instable politics), but I was hoping fifth generation aircraft would be a priority. At least it will be delivered by end of 2026.

Hope IAF will be happy with their new Rafale shipments coming in half a decade ;)
 
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