056 class FFL/corvette

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I get the vibes the 76mm gun is being used to shoot down the target drone. It's easy to forget the 76mm gun has AA capability of its own.
 

banjex

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The 056 is not underarmed, Russian missile boats are significantly over armed to make up for the fact Russia can barely cobble together a modern frigate.

Remember, Russia has nothing even near the 055, 052D or the 054A's numbers. The 956, 1155, Kirov, Slava and others are fairly outdated, few in number and low in availability.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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Any idea what this warship is? A 054A-mod for the CCG is moored to its starboard.

Looks to be corvette-sized or light frigate-sized, allegedly for the PLAN (if not for CCG) use. No VLS is seen, apart from a large helicopter landing pad at the stern, a Mogami FFG-lookalike mast, and a new type(?) of gun turret towards the bow. Judging by the 054A-mod for the CCG, this warship likely won't displace more than 3000 tons.

Spotted at Southern Liaoning Dalian Shipyard (also known as PLA Factory #4810).

Posted by @铁幕之翼 on Weibo, shared by @大包CG on Weibo.

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ACuriousPLAFan

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Looks to be corvette-sized or light frigate-sized, allegedly for the PLAN (if not for CCG) use. No VLS is seen, apart from a large helicopter landing pad at the stern, a Mogami FFG-lookalike mast, and a new type(?) of gun turret towards the bow. Judging by Compared to the 054A-mod for the CCG, this warship likely won't displace above 3000 tons.
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To @snake65 (since I am unable to quote your post for replying): Could be.

But there are claims that this new warship is meant to better complement the 056/As and supplement the 054As in maritime law enforcement duties and to act as workhorses of the PLAN/CCG in facing-offs against opposing naval forces directly within the vicinity of the disputed islands and waters around the 1IC (i.e. Diaoyu and SCS).

A few in the comment section also relate the new warship to
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from 2 months ago by @炮霸707军情小站 on Weibo:
今天无聊发点暴论
054这个船吧是当年没有大舰,且抠搜没钱的年代规划的,满足单舰中等强度对抗以及一定远海作战需求的作战舰艇。以此要求来看,054A很好的权衡了成本和效能。
不过呢,形势是在变化的,在中日东海对抗常态化,以及美军频频在南海以及东海搅局之后,054A的问题就暴露出来了。航速太慢,没办法与对手进行一对一盯防的。只能用分区防守的策略来应对对手的挑衅。
所以,在近些年来历次重大的对峙行动中处于一线的永远都是052D(和054A)。
在未来,无论是某战之前,还是某战之后,我鳖的对手都是航速30节以上的强敌,从这一点出发,那些个航速到不了30节的玩意是没啥前途的。远海跟不上,近海盯不住。
你们对于现在054的改进所存在的一切野望都特么会在052D这个成熟平台的后续看到。而真正对054系列构成(任务)替代的战舰可能会是一个没有054大,但航速够高的东西。

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I'm bored today so I'm making some rants
The 054 ship was planned in an era when there were no large ships and no money. It is a combat ship that meets the needs of single-ship medium-intensity confrontation and certain long-sea operations. Judging from this requirement, 054A is a good balance between cost and performance.
However, the situation is changing. After the confrontation between China and Japan in the East China Sea became normal, and the US military frequently disrupted the situation in the South China Sea and the East China Sea, the problems of the 054A were exposed. The speed is too slow, making it impossible to mark one-on-one with the opponent. China can only use the strategy of zone-defense to deal with the opponent's provocation.
Therefore, it has always been 052D (and 054A too) who has been on the front line in all major confrontations in recent years.
In the future, whether it is before a certain war or after a certain war, China's opponents will be powerful enemies with a speed of more than 30 knots. From this point of view, those things that can't reach a speed of 30 knots have no future. China can't keep up in the distant sea, and can't keep an eye on the offshore sea.
All your ambitions for the improvement of the current 054 will be seen in the follow-up of the mature platform of 052D. The warship that truly replaces the 054 series (in terms of mission profile) may be something that is not as big as the 054, but has a high enough speed.

Slanted phrases are additions of my own.
 
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Tam

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Any idea what this warship is? A 054A-mod for the CCG is moored to its starboard.

Looks to be corvette-sized or light frigate-sized, allegedly for the PLAN (if not for CCG) use. No VLS is seen, apart from a large helicopter landing pad at the stern, a Mogami FFG-lookalike mast, and a new type(?) of gun turret towards the bow. Judging by the 054A-mod for the CCG, this warship likely won't displace more than 3000 tons.

Spotted at Southern Liaoning Dalian Shipyard (also known as PLA Factory #4810).

Posted by @铁幕之翼 on Weibo, shared by @大包CG on Weibo.

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The 054A next to it looks to me like a regular 054A instead of the CCG mod, which doesn't use both Type 366 and Type 382 radars, as they don't serve the coast guard purpose.

With the new ship next to the 054A, it's a good gauge of its size, which isn't small by any means.
 

KangarooPriest

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Looks like Shugart might have noticed it under construction at Dalian back in August.


Honestly I thought a Visby or Pr.22160 was making a port visit at first. If the estimate of 1500-3000t is correct, 056 successor seems like a good bet. Going through twitter looks like none of the usual people have found a good match with models shown off at defence expos.
 
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