F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

TerraN_EmpirE

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I would suggest that is exactly the reason the Russians are currently "courting Erdogan", as you recall, Turkey shot down a Russian military aircraft recently, and after extreme anger, now Putin has offered the Turks th S400 in a gesture of goodwill...
Russia and Putin have a agenda in the Region. The being reestablishment of a Russian Power base along it's boarders. Putin is a ardent Nationalist and opportunist. Erdogan is of a similar wishing to reestablish the Ottoman empire. Erdogan misjudged the US and NATO commitment to removing Assad of Syria and driving a Turkish power play in the Region. Basically he over stepped Thinking he had Carte Blanche, When the US admin and Europe said NO He suddenly had to reign in his Ambitions and ask forgiveness, Putin gave him an Out and started drawing him into his own circle. Yet Putin knows how far he can go in regards to this wayward NATO member. If Putin starts the War Then NATO would respond but if a member of NATO picks the fight then they will be left holding the bag.
Putin Doesn't like NATO he views it as a Anti Russian alliance ( and he is not totally wrong). However he also views it as American Centric and western European centric. To pull it apart he needs to siphon it's power by buying up alliance members.

So I suggest that Russia is extremely interested in testing their S400 against the F-35,
Oh yes they would be but Erdogan is the Wrong guy to ask. He's a wild card for Putin. Putin knows that Erdogan won't give him everything as Erdugan wants to be Emperor and not a Vassal.
As such Erdogan is trying to build up his own empire, he won't compromise his own army for Putin. F35 has things Turkey wants and S400 offers things they want to. It's not the first case of a NATO member buying Russian Air defense missiles Greece bought S300's 5 years ago.
 
just a brief comment on recent posts here:

the US, as a country which has perfected logistics, ended up with ANTI-logistics which is F-35 Project with supply chain as LONG as possible and the number of suppliers as LARGE as possible!

(it appears to work domestically since it makes enough Politicians interested in keeping the project going whatever its actual perfo, but it's pretty risky internationally)
 
despite the headline
Amid NATO Infighting, the Future of the F-35 Is Shrinking
the article sounds like a LockMart ad to me
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The U.S. Senate wants to revoke Turkey’s license to buy the jet, while other European governments are looking to get a competitor off the ground.

The most sophisticated fighter jet in the world, the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, will play a smaller role in the future of European security than originally conceived. On Monday, the
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its version of the 2019 defense authorization act to block the sale of the fifth-generation fighter jet to Turkey. The reason: the NATO ally’s purchase of the Russian
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, a radar and missile battery with a lethal range of 250 km. In routine operation, the sensor- and transmitter-packed jet exchanges electronic data with friendly anti-air systems and sensors, and if Turkey were to do this, data collected by the Russian-built weapon might find its way back to Moscow.

The House version of
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also expresses concerns about the S-400 and Turkey and requires a report 60 days after the bill’s enactment to assess Turkey’s purchase of the system and possible consequences to U.S. aircraft.

Turkey inked the S-400 deal last year, over strenuous objections from the U.S. and other NATO-member governments concerned about an ally using Russian air defense systems. “A NATO-interoperable missile defense system remains the best option to defend Turkey from the full range of threats in the region,” Pentagon spokesperson Johnny Michael told CNBC last fall.

Turkey’s Prime Minister Binali Yildirim called Monday’s decision
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It’s also very inconvenient for Turkey’s political elite, coming just days
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.

The U.S. military has gotten up close and personal with the S-400 over Syria, where the
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to aid the Assad regime. Its deadly presence reshaped how the U.S.-led coalition flies air ops, Lt. Gen. Jeffrey Harrigan told reporters in September. “‘We are consistently monitoring them to see if something changes their intent because we have to manage that and respond quickly…We look at it every day. It’s an everyday discussion to make sure our force can manage that risk.”

Strained Atlantic relations aren’t just affecting today’s jet sales and development today, but potentially decisions far off as well.

France and Germany have agreed to work together on a sixth-generation fighter, the so-called Future Combat Air System, or FCAS, to begin to replace the Tornado by 2040. The previous chief of the Luftwaffe, Lt. Gen. Karl Müllner, had been in favor of replacing the Tornado with the F-35. Partly for that reason,
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Going with the F-35 would “eliminate the need for a next-gen European fighter and possibly cripple Europe’s capacity to develop such a system for years to come,” said Ulrich Kühn, a German political scientist and senior research associate at the
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The move has ramifications far beyond what new jets are sitting on the tarmac in Western Europe in ten years.

“Since Germany takes part in NATO nuclear sharing, a new platform would have to be certified by the U.S. to deliver U.S.
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,” thermonuclear gravity bombs,
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. He was responding to an article that ran Sunday in the German Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung newspaper. “But [the] new fighter should be nuke capable,” says Kühn. “Now, German Airbus officials have started asking the Gretchen Question: what nukes shall the FCAS carry? U.S. or French ones?” Kühn argues that the question of how to develop the FCAS as a nuclear capable jet will be one of the most important decisions that Germany will take in the next few years and could have ramifications for the future of the nuclear umbrella over Europe.

What was supposed to be a unified, highly interoperable American weapons web could become more fractured, less under American control. “The decision about the FCAS as a nuclear platform will have wide-ranging repercussions on Germany, the EU and NATO,” he says.

The U.S. military has been pushing allies to buy the F-35 not just to expand America’s weapons reach but because the jet is a
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as much a bomb-dropper. One of its core selling features is its ability to transmit rich targeting intelligence to nearby drones or faraway jets or even Aegis warships
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miles away.

That interoperability is key to the Pentagon’s
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. As alliances with Western
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those plans may need revision.
 

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despite the headline
Amid NATO Infighting, the Future of the F-35 Is Shrinking
the article sounds like a LockMart ad to me
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I don't think the FCAS program constitute the "shrinking of F-35", after all France and Germany have never been on board the F-35 program any way, and they would have never seriously considered F-35 for political reasons. The two are big powers having full set of technology foundations to go independently, and they always have the design of themselves being the equal top player of world affairs.
 
Tuesday at 7:04 AM
Saturday at 8:48 AM
and
US Senate blocks F35 sales to Turkey
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Measure could delay sale of 100 planes
June 18, 2018
now
Turkey gets first F-35, but faces halt on future deliveries if Congress gets its way
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Much like the other partners in the F-35 joint strike fighter program,
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accepted its first F-35 in a festive ceremony with cultural touches and fanfare.

Images of the flag waving were shown. National anthems were sung. A band played traditional music, while a man pirouetted onstage wearing leather bird wings. And finally the curtain dropped, revealing the first Turkish F-35A.

But beyond today’s rollout celebration,
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about Turkey’s human rights record and
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— particularly a potential deal for Russia’s S-400 anti-aircraft weapon system. On Monday, the Senate passed a defense policy bill that would block the transfer of future F-35s to Turkey.

On Thursday, Senate appropriators added an amendment to the foreign aid bill that would put a stop to future deliveries if Turkey does not cancel the S-400 purchase. And 44 House lawmakers have already signed off on a letter urging Defense Secretary Jim Mattis to do the same.

All of that controversy seemed far removed from the ceremony in Fort Worth, attended by Lockheed Martin executives, Turkish defense officials, and representatives from the U.S. Defense Department’s F-35 joint program office and Defense Contracts Management Agency.

After the country’s F-35 was rolled out, Turkish officials took to the stage, where they repeatedly reinforced the idea that it would use its F-35s to promote NATO interests.

Turkish Maj. Gen. Reha Ufuk Er said that Turkey’s F-35s will “significantly augment” NATO alliance air capabilities and contribute to global stability.

“As you are all well aware, Turkey is located at the geostrategic and cultural crossroads between the East and the West,” he said.

“On the other hand, it’s geographic location and proximity to the conflict areas significantly increases the security challenges it faces. All of these factors necessitate that Turkey has robust capabilities to ensure her contribution to regional and global security environment.”

F-35’s technological features, ability to adapt to future threats and use by partners across the globe makes it a great asset to achieve that goal, Ufuk Er said, adding that he hoped the United States and Turkey would work together to explore ways to best use the joint strike fighter.

Serdar Demirel, Turkey’s deputy undersecretary of defense industries, also noted that the aircraft would help Turkey “strengthen the deterrence of NATO.”

Lawmakers and
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have already stepped forward to register concerns that Turkey’s use of the S-400 alongside the F-35 could compromise the joint strike fighter’s stealth capabilities and potentially convey vulnerabilities to Russia.

“Any effort by the Government of the Republic of Turkey to further enhance their relationship with Russia will degrade the general security of the NATO alliance … and degrade interoperability of the alliance,” the Senate version of the fiscal year 2019 defense policy bill states.

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that Mattis is personally opposed to attempts by Congress to block future F-35 deliveries to Turkey, and that he is working with lawmakers to ensure that the Senate’s language is omitted from the final version of the defense policy bill.

Those provisions would prohibit transfers of F-35s to Turkey until the Defense Department develops a plan to remove Turkey from the program.

That may be easier said than done. Turkey plans to buy 100 F-35As total. As a partner on the program, it has helped finance the development of the joint strike fighter as well as providing select maintenance functions for European operators.

Turkish defense contractors also help build the F-35, and a video shown at the rollout included executives from companies such as Turkish Aerospace Industries, Kale Group, ALP Aviation and Ayesas, the only Turkish company involved in software development.

Turkey is set to hold a presidential and parliamentary election June 24 — and the outcome could affect the government’s willingness to continue pursuing the S-400.

However, today’s ceremony could be a boon for Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, said Aykan Erdemir, a former member of the Turkish parliament and senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

“The rollout ceremony, which comes right after Monday’s Senate vote to block the transfer of F-35 titles, allows Turkey’s pro-government media to spin today’s development as Erdogan’s defeat of U.S. Congress and to boost his image as an indomitable leader,” he said. “This will be yet another setback for Turkey’s democratic opposition already suffering under Erdogan’s draconian state of emergency and uneven playing field in the country.”

After the delivery, Turkey’s first F-35 is set to move to Luke Air Force Base, Ariz., where the Turkish pilots will be embedded inside a U.S. Air Force training squadron and learn to operate the F-35 alongside American pilots.

Turkish maintainers have already started their training at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida, Ufuk Er said.
 
related to Dec 21, 2016
Today at 8:18 AM

now read the FlighGlobal story Loose bracket caused F-35B fire

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is (LOL I don't post the headline)
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An
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into flames caused by a faulty bracket nearly two years ago has been struck by the Marine Corps, making it the first loss of an F-35 for the Corps.

The Corps made the determination that the costs to repair the costly high-tech fighter would not be worth the return on investment.

However, the Marines have not put out an official strike message for the
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because the Corps has not decided whether the aircraft will be used as a trainer for maintenance or a museum centerpiece.

“With the specific F-35B involved in this discussion, the Marine Corps’ cost-benefit analysis determined the repair costs would not yield a sufficient ROI [return on investment] to justify the expenses,” Capt. Christopher Harrison, a Marine spokesman, told Marine Corps Times. “The decision was made to strike the F-35B; however, there has not yet been a strike message as the disposition decision has not yet been made.”

On Oct. 27, 2016, a fire broke out mid-air on F-35B forcing the pilot to land at Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort, South Carolina.

The faulty bracket, which was known as a potential hazard by officials overseeing the F-35 program, grazed electrical wiring near hydraulic lines. A fire erupted when an electrical short ignited a small hydraulic leak.

Despite the loss of the F-35 the Marine Corps has made some recent historic strides with its F-35 program.

Earlier this year, the F-35B made its first deployment aboard the amphibious assault ship Wasp with the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit, or MEU. And during that deployment, live munitions were loaded onto an F-35 for the first time while underway.

The 13th Marine Expeditionary is also slated to deploy with F-35s. That unit is still amid pre-deployment workups.
 

timepass

Brigadier
Turkey is all set to take delivery of its First F-35A...

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Turkey is all set to take delivery of its First 5th Generation Stealth Fighter - F-35A, total order is of 100 F-35A.

A ceremony was held at Lockheed Martin Facility in Fort Worth Texas, the Jets will be moved to Luke Air Force Base in Arizona where Turkish Crew and Pilots will be trained. . . . .
 
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