F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

I'm even more suspicious than usual, LOL which means highly suspicious, about changing the supplier of a crucial component while claiming "life cycle cost savings" ... now I read also

After Northrop Pullout, Raytheon Will Make F-35's See-Through Sensor
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The Marines Are Still Trying To Figure Out When Their F-35Bs Might Literally Fall Apart
when hit by a WW2 Flak? just kidding, here's the article
June 14, 2018
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Earlier in June 2018, anyone driving on the highways near the city of Wichita, Kansas might have caught a glimpse of what seemed
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on the back of a large flatbed truck. What they were actually looking at is part of the work being done to answer the very important question of just how long an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter is supposed to last before it's no longer airworthy. So far, the U.S. Air Force's
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and U.S. Navy's
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look to be as durable as expected, but tests on an example of the U.S. Marine Corps's
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have exposed more serious issues.

On June 6, 2018, the F-35A aircraft arrived at Wichita State University’s National Institute for Aviation Research,
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, as part of the Joint Strike Fighter program's durability testing regimen. Manufacturer Lockheed Martin had sent the jet from its Fort Worth plant to the research facility so that specialists could tear it down and inspect its internal structure to determine whether it had adequately withstood earlier tests. At present, all versions of the F-35 are supposed to have a lifespan of 8,000 flight hours.

“As part of the F-35 program, durability ground test aircraft undergo exhaustive testing to validate the structural integrity of the airframe to withstand a variety of maneuvers it will experience throughout its lifetime,” NIAR said in a statement to the
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. The latter organization also released
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about the plane on the back of the truck to allay any possible public concerns.

This isn’t the first time NIAR has helped analyze the results of structural and durability tests on F-35 aircraft. In August 2017, the facility
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model for inspection. The institute also performed a wide array of other aviation testing services for the U.S. government and private companies and hosts
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that it operates in cooperation with the Federal Aviation Administration and the U.S. Air Force.

Lockheed Martin has built a total of
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, two of each of the three F-35 variants, to support these experiments and has been actively stress and fatigue testing the airframes since 2009. The company and its subcontractors have used a host of different test stands and other equipment to drop and otherwise simulate typical operations and maneuvers that the aircraft will experience during its expected life cycle.

The U.S. military’s central Joint Program Office (JPO) for the Joint Strike Fighter has mandated that testing put each type of jet through testing that simulates the equivalent of three full life cycles, or 24,000 flight hours.

This doesn’t mean that each one of the test F-35s will go through that full amount of abuse or that contractors can’t perform normal, expected repairs and preventive maintenance during the experiments. The objective is to simulate typical use, not simply shake the airframes apart. Lockheed Martin only set aside one of each type specifically for ground fatigue testing, as well. The other three aircraft have gotten subjected to different kinds of stress tests, including
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to see how the airframe might hold up in combat.

The F-35A that arrived at NIAR in June 2018 had just finished the third cycle of tests for that variant. The F-35C was slated to finish its final round of testing in December 2017, but it is unclear if that has occurred and when analysis of the results might begin.

“For all variants, this testing led to discoveries requiring repairs and modifications to production designs and retrofits to fielded aircraft,” the Pentagon’s Office of the Director of Operational Test and Evaluation, or DOT&E, reported in its
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of the program, covering the 2017 fiscal year, which ended on September 30, 2017. This is, of course, exactly why the U.S. military conducts these tests in the first place.

But while the F-35A and C variants look set to meet the stated durability goals, the Marine Corps’ F-35B has had
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. The F-35 JPO suspended durability testing on that variant in February 2017 after one of the two test articles finished the second simulated life cycle, according to DOT&E.

“Due to the significant amount of modifications and repairs to bulkheads and other structures, the program declared the F-35B ground test article was no longer representative of the production aircraft, so the JPO deemed it inadequate for further testing,” the Pentagon testing office’s report noted. “The program canceled the testing of the third lifetime with [the F-35B known as] BH-1 and made plans to procure another ground test article, but has not yet done so.”

It is very likely that the F-35Bs structural woes are, in no small part, due to a massive effort early in the Joint Strike Fighter's development to cut the weight of that variant in particular. Beginning in 2004, a group of engineers at Lockheed Martin called the STOVL (Short Take Off/Vertical Landing) Weight Attack Team, or SWAT, found ways to shave
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off the Marine Corps' version. They trimmed 1,300 pounds from the A and C types, too.

This weight reduction project was critical to advancing the program at the time, but persistent reports of
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and
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, raise questions about what got sacrificed to meet those targets.

Now, there is a very real concern that the B variant may not meet the 8,000 flight hour target. These jets may have a shorter service life than the other types “even with extensive modifications to strengthen the aircraft,” DOT&E warned.

On top of that, these versions are having serious problems with the durability of their wheels specifically. Unlike the F-35As and Cs, the B models have the ability to take off and land vertically, which requires tires that are at the same time durable enough for a conventional landing and soft enough to cushion the jet when it comes straight down.

As it stands now, ground crews have to change the tires, on average, after fewer than 10 full-stop conventional landings, which is less than half the target number. Lockheed Martin has reportedly sourced a possible replacement tire, but will only begin testing it sometime in late 2018, according to a report on the F-35 program that
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(GAO), a congressional watchdog, released earlier in June 2018.

Ensuring that the jet’s airframe, as well as other ancillary components, last as long as they’re supposed to, is extremely important for both safety and sustainment reasons. Without an accurate understanding of when the planes will literally fall apart, the U.S. Air Force, Navy, and Marines Corps, as well as foreign operators, could risk putting pilots in the cockpit of aircraft that simply aren’t airworthy.

It is also an essential component for long-term planning with regards to
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since these tests will provide additional data on what components are most likely to fail and when. This, in turn, can help give an early sense of what portions of the airframe might need an overhaul or outright replacement, and how much that might cost, during any service life extension program down the road.

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the rest of the article from the preceding post:
The Air Force is already in the process of starting a major life extension project
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, as parts of that fleet begin to get near their maximum allowable flight hours. The U.S. Navy is similarly embarking on a similar program to breath additional life into
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Having a good understanding of the structural lifespan of the F-35 could be even more important given the
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associated with any heavy maintenance on the jets due to their stealthy features.
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for the Joint Strike Fighter Program, which have extended its development time overall, mean that these issues could come to the fore sooner rather than later, too.

On May 30, 2018, the U.S. Navy, which manages to F-35 JPO at present, awarded Lockheed Martin
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worth more than $45 million to, in part, to “support service life extension” work on the developmental test Joint Strike Fighters. The oldest members of this fleet of aircraft, which now numbers more than a dozen in total, have been flying for more than a decade already for testing purposes.

An accurate appraisal of how long a lifespan each of the aircraft has will also be increasingly important as the U.S. military looks to move to full-rate production of the aircraft. With more jets coming off the production line, the cost to implement any necessary, but complex structural fixes or improvements will similarly grow.

The aforementioned GAO report was highly critical of the Pentagon’s push to move ahead and step up production without having fixed a host of unspecified serious deficiencies with the aircraft, including six having to do with the “air vehicle” itself. The review noted that the JPO did not well-established plan for about how and when to integrate any upgrades into existing and future aircraft as part of its Continuous Capability Development and Delivery (C2D2) concept, either.

The report also pointed out that the JPO has yet to give a full accounting of the costs associated with bring jets up to the “final” Block 4 standard and building new ones in this configuration or what those aircraft will actually look like in terms of mission systems and capabilities. Any major changes in the aircraft’s structure or other components could change the stressed on certain portions of the airframe and potentially have an impact on the aircraft’s overall lifespan.

It’s worth noting that the JPO determined the existing F-35B ground test article was no longer suitable for tests due to how much the airframe changed over the course of previous experiments. It did, however, accept the results of the second round of testing.

Not knowing the specific conclusions from the existing testing on any of the F-35 variants, it’s hard to judge how significant of an impact repairs and configuration changes may or may not have on the jets’ life expectancy. With regards to the F-35B, what may happen is that it could simply end up with a shorter official service life than the other two variants.

If the actual lifespan is closer to 6,000 flight hours, this would put them on par with the U.S. Navy’s F/A-18E/F Super Hornets, which are now slated to get upgrades to extend their lives out to 9,000 hours. The U.S. military will still need to buy another F-35B to be sure, though.

As of yet, inspectors have not yet formally certified any of the three versions as having an approximately 8,000 flight hour-long service life. In the meantime, until these important figures get settled, residents of Wichita and the surrounding environs may continue to see F-35s under wraps heading to NIAR so specialists can examine them.
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The Marines Are Still Trying To Figure Out When Their F-35Bs Might Literally Fall Apart
when hit by a WW2 Flak? just kidding

Do you have any idea how many shells it took to down an aircraft with that kind of weapon? Even against slow World war 2 aircraft The Numbers are STUPIDLY ONE SIDED in favor of the Aircraft.
To down a single Aircraft in the Second world war by Germany who was basically being bombed by hundreds of large bombers en mass round the clock.
It took on Average 16,000 shots of a Flak 36 8.8cm, 8,500 of a Flak 41 8.8cm and a larger Flak 38 10.5cm was downing one aircraft ever 6,000 shots. Don't get me wrong here Bomber crews took losses over Germany in World war 2 but the amount of explosive being used to down a single B17 was double what the Bomber was actually carrying.

In the First Gulf War Saddam had a competent Tripple A system in place around Baghdad. American F117's flew missions over the city on a number of cases without a single loss. The only known Stealth actually shot down was by an Air to air missile that had placed it's self along a regularly used flight track for a stealth.

factor in high speed smaller numbers and if anyone actually ever managed to nail a F35B in combat it would be with odds that make the Powerball look easy.
 
Yesterday at 9:11 PM
I'm even more suspicious than usual, LOL which means highly suspicious, about changing the supplier of a crucial component while claiming "life cycle cost savings" ... now I read also

After Northrop Pullout, Raytheon Will Make F-35's See-Through Sensor
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and

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one more:
Raytheon to develop new F-35 distributed aperture system
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Lockheed Martin has awarded Raytheon a contract to develop the F-35 Lightning II’s next-generation distributed aperture system (DAS).

The equipment was previously manufactured by Northrop Grumman, which decided not to bid on the next-generation system, saying it was not an attractive business deal.

Lockheed did not disclose the terms or value of the new contract, which was announced on 13 June.

The F-35’s DAS uses six infrared cameras mounted around the aircraft, including under the nose, to project augmented-reality images into a helmet-mounted display (HMD) made by Vision Systems International, a joint venture between Elbit Systems and Rockwell Collins.

By projecting the DAS video stream onto the HMD, the F-35’s pilot can see through the aircraft structure to view the surrounding environment. The system also automatically identifies and tracks threats, such as incoming missiles, in the display.

The Raytheon-built DAS will be integrated into the F-35 starting with Lot 15 production aircraft, expected to be delivered in 2023.

Lockheed expects the next-generation system to generate more than $3 billion in lifecycle cost savings. It also says it will be more reliable and have better performance than the earlier version.
I think something is fishy
 
Yesterday at 8:37 PM
Yesterday at 9:11 PM
one more:
Raytheon to develop new F-35 distributed aperture system
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I think something is fishy
now this story:
Raytheon to Deliver Next-Generation F-35 Sensor System
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Lockheed Martin has selected Raytheon to develop and deliver the next-generation Distributed Aperture System (DAS) for the F-35 fighter jet. Lockheed Martin said in a June 13 release. The result of a Lockheed Martin-led competition, the selection will enhance capability and reduce cost.

The F-35’s Distributed Aperture System collects and sends high resolution, real-time imagery to the pilot’s helmet from six infrared cameras mounted around the aircraft, allowing pilots to see the environment around them – day or night. With the ability to detect and track threats from any angle, the F-35 DAS gives pilots unprecedented situational awareness of the battlespace.

“The supply chain competition for the next-generation F-35 Distributed Aperture System resulted in significant cost savings, reliability and performance improvements,” said Greg Ulmer, Lockheed Martin vice president and general manager of the F-35 program. “We are aggressively pursuing cost reduction across the F-35 enterprise and this initiative is a clear demonstration of our unrelenting commitment to reduce costs and deliver transformational capabilities for the warfighter.”

The Raytheon-built DAS will be integrated into F-35s starting with Lot 15 aircraft, expected to begin deliveries in 2023. The next-generation DAS system is estimated to generate the following results compared to the current system:

■ More than $3 billion in life-cycle cost savings.
■ Approximately 45 percent reduction in unit recurring cost.
■ Greater than 50 percent reduction in operations and sustainment cost.
■ Five times more reliability.
■ Two times performance capability improvement.
■ The new system will also indirectly benefit aircraft readiness and service manpower requirements.

“Raytheon’s solution delivers next-generation capability for the fifth-generation F-35,” said Roy Azevedo vice president of Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Systems at Raytheon Space and Airborne Systems. “Our focus is on providing pilots every tactical advantage imaginable while ensuring taxpayers receive the best value possible.”
 
Thursday at 7:50 AM
May 26, 2018
and Despite some opposition, US on course to deliver F-35s to Turkey on June 21
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Jun 6, 2018
now
Lawmakers Urge Mattis to Block F-35 Sales to Turkey
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A group of 44 lawmakers are urging Defense Secretary Jim Mattis to block the sale of F-35s to Turkey, following Turkish actions in Syria and its plan to buy Russian-made air defenses. “Contrary to its NATO obligations and the expectations that should govern a responsible ally, Turkey is actively operating to undermine US interests around the world,” the bipartisan group of lawmakers wrote in a Thursday letter to Mattis. “Turkey’s repeated military actions against American interests, relentless degradation of human rights and democracy under President Erdogan, and clear intention to build a strategic partnership with Russia have completely eroded the US-Turkey relationship.” Turkey is set to receive its first F-35A on June 21, however, the lawmakers write that they have “no confidence” the country will use the aircraft “responsibly” in the region, based on Turkey’s history targeting US-backed Kurdish YPG forces inside Syria and Kurdish Peshmerga inside Iraq. “It is hard to imagine a more compelling case for re-evaluating the delivery of US military technology to a foreign state,” the letter states. We must hold Turkey accountable for conduct that threatens US national security, undermines the interests of our partners and allies, and represents a broadside attack against fundamental democratic values.”
 

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Given that the letter evidently doesn't know that Turkey is allied with the Peshmerga, I'm sure that Mattis will give that letter all due consideration it deserves.
 
Yesterday at 8:37 PMnow this story:
Raytheon to Deliver Next-Generation F-35 Sensor System
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now funny thoughts: since

"The Raytheon-built DAS will be integrated into F-35s starting with Lot 15 aircraft, expected to begin deliveries in 2023. The next-generation DAS system is estimated to generate the following results compared to the current system:

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■ Five times more reliability.
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if, and for how much, hundreds of copies built until that 2023 will get their DAS replaced for "five times more reliability" hahaha won't hold my breath until then
 
Saturday at 8:48 AM
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now
Lawmakers Urge Mattis to Block F-35 Sales to Turkey
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and
US Senate blocks F35 sales to Turkey
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Measure could delay sale of 100 planes
June 18, 2018

The US Senate has voted to block transfers of the F35 fighter jet to Turkey, reflecting increasing tension with a key Nato ally, in a move that could ultimately hold up the sale of 100 planes worth close to $10bn.

A bipartisan clause added to the National Defense Authorisation Act — which was passed by the Senate Monday evening by a vote of 85 to 10 — would prohibit the transfer of F35s to Turkey until the secretary of defence submits a plan to remove Turkey from participation in the programme, which includes allocating production of parts to each country.

Turkey is one of 14 Nato member countries that help construct the stealth plane, along with the UK, Norway and Israel.

US senators made the intervention given concerns over Turkey’s stated intent to install the Russian S400 air defence system, which Pentagon officials are concerned would put the secrets of the F35 and the data it collects at risk.

Senators also wanted to register their dissatisfaction at the detention of a evangelical US pastor, Andrew Brunson, who is being held in Turkey after being charged with terrorism in the wake of a 2016 coup attempt that Ankara believes was spearheaded by a Turkish resident of the US.

The bill, which must still be passed by the House, could undergo further changes in the reconciliation process and is not expected to become law until later in the summer.

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, the maker of the F35, said it still expects to hand over initial F35s to Turkey in a ceremonial exchange at Fort Worth in Texas on June 21, probably before the bill becomes law. Turkish pilots are due to be trained on the plane in-country, but the planes themselves are not scheduled to leave the US for at least a year, giving the Pentagon time to find a solution in order to honour the new law if it passes.

But the intervention will create bureaucratic hurdles for US officials, who say that relations between the two Nato allies have in recent months reached their lowest ebb since Turkey’s invasion of northern Cyprus in 1974.
 
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