China's SCS Strategy Thread

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  1. Jura
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    it (your 2015 link) appears to be the Fiery Cross flyover mentioned after 01:20 in the vid inside the article Yesterday at 8:06 PM

    not sure what's the problem:
    the US will keep coming, the Chinese will keep shooing away, the journalists will keep reporting, I guess LOL actually it's pretty entertaining while watched from the middle of Europe
     
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    The flyover in the latest article was obviously conducted recently and isn't the one from 2015. Note the advanced state of construction on Fiery Cross.

    Considering the level of Pentagon approval required, the fact that journalists were invited again means that the timing of this was 100% politically motivated. There is a reason senior US officials want to draw attention to the SCS again.
     
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    gosh I said
    13 minutes ago
    "it (your 2015 link) appears to be the Fiery Cross flyover mentioned after 01:20 in the vid inside the article Yesterday at 8:06 PM"
    so of course the CNN filmed both flyovers, back in 2015 and now

    it's cool stuff, I'm looking forward to see a Type 055 pushing out a Burke in the future, later encounters of whole CVBGs maybe

    anyway it's a type of the game which has been played with the Soviets/Russians since 1950s
     
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    From Asia Times
    http://www.atimes.com/article/satellites-to-watch-each-and-every-ship-in-south-china-sea/

    Satellites to watch ‘each and every ship’ in South China Sea
    Hainan province and the city of Sansha have been tasked with launching and operating a network of satellites which will monitor the entire ocean
    By ASIA TIMES STAFF AUGUST 16, 2018 3:39 PM (UTC+8)

    China is planning to set up a “CCTV network in space” and will launch satellites to monitor just about all of the South China Sea, with a control room for the network on an island claimed by Vietnam and Taiwan.

    In July 2012, Beijing set up a new prefecture-level city made up of a chain of barren atolls and reefs with a minuscule landmass of about 13 square kilometers to exert jurisdiction over 2.6 million square kilometers of open sea.

    The creation of the city of Sansha under southern Hainan province was meant to advance Beijing’s claim to almost the entire South China Sea.

    Now it appears that 10 new navigation and surveillance satellites will help Sansha’s administration keep a close watch over the vast expanse of sea – and everything that passes through it.

    Chinese state media has reported that Hainan would start launching satellites, likely from the Wenchang Spacecraft Launch Site on the province’s east coast, for a “CCTV network in space” to keep watch on the South China Sea.

    State media said the satellites would be used for defense and marine rescue purposes and a ground control center would be built on Yongxing Island, also known as Woody Island, that lies in the center of an area of contention between Beijing and its neighbors.

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    An aerial view of Yongxing Island. Photo: Xinhua
    “Every reef and ship” would be put under surveillance to deal with emergencies when the system is up and running.

    Citing a memo from the Sanya Institute of Remote Sensing under the Chinese Academy of Sciences, the People’s Daily said that work on the first prototype of these earth observation satellites had been underway, with launches scheduled between 2019 and 2021.

    These satellites would be able to scan the 3.5-million-square-kilometer South China Sea and update a satellite image database “within days,” compared with the current pace of two to three months for each scan using existing satellites.

    The newspaper added that on top of high-resolution cameras, the new satellites would be fitted with an “Automatic Identification System,” although no more details were given.

    A researcher with the Institute of Remote Sensing also revealed that the satellites could keep tabs on areas between 20 and 30 degrees north and south from the equator. That means large swathes of the Indian Ocean as well as the Malacca Strait could also come under Beijing’s full glare.

    It is believed that since the new satellite network is being proposed by local authorities rather than the Chinese military, Beijing hopes the program will not draw too much ire from other nations that also have claims in the South China Sea.

    Hainan and Sansha officials pledged that data about passing ships, reefs and water quality would be shared with other countries.

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    very good, LOL will now people listen to
    Nov 23, 2016
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    I don't understand what are you trying to say That Zumwalt stealth shape is undetectable?

    Not if this new panned to be true In few more years when this constellation of satellite finish Nothing can be hidden See this paragraph combine AIS(Automatic identification ship)

    Citing a memo from the Sanya Institute of Remote Sensing under the Chinese Academy of Sciences, the People’s Daily said that work on the first prototype of these earth observation satellites had been underway, with launches scheduled between 2019 and 2021.

    These satellites would be able to scan the 3.5-million-square-kilometer South China Sea and update a satellite image database “within days,” compared with the current pace of two to three months for each scan using existing satellites.

    The newspaper added that on top of high-resolution cameras, the new satellites would be fitted with an “Automatic Identification System,” although no more details were given.
     
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    gosh didn't you get I had said the OPPOSITE?!

    did you READ the chunk I reposted:

    "... to cut the long story short, I think it's an ILLUSION to try to hide at sea these days (the Bismarck didn't make it to Brest, did she? LOL) and the USN outsmarted itself with the Zumwalts ..."

    ?!
     
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    now noticed:
    East Pendulum Retweeted
    Ryan Martinson‏ @rdmartinson88 11h11 hours ago


    Looks like there's some tension off the coast of Malaysia, at the South Luconia Shoals. China Coast Guard ship 3401 is operating dangerously close to Indonesia-flagged offshore support ship Java Imperia. Apparently trying to disrupt operations. (file photos)

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    A rare English language media article that actually describes the "freedom of navigation" international law disagreement between the US and China.

    https://thediplomat.com/2018/08/the-south-china-sea-freedom-of-overflight-or-unlawful-activities/

    Cont'd next post due to character limit
     
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    Cont'd from previous post due to character limit

     
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