All newType-59 thread

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    The number have clearly decreases remains 1300 + 1100 B/D with 105 mm on 7500 tanks.
     
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    At this point it's probably more expensive to maintain these antiques than purchasing all new vehicles.
     
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    I don't agree ... these babies are very easy to maintain
     
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    I am not familiar with maintenance costs for the Type, but from the point of view of replacing parts-there are a great many of the same/similar model being decommissioned every year. These would be used for scrap if the entire fleet was decommissioned. Unfortunately, there is also the issue of a great deal of munitions for the 100mm cannon sitting around-a problem the Russian Federation had too following the breakup for the SU, albeit on a much larger scale. Thankfully, the PLA did not make the mistake of trying to mass-adapt IFVs with 100mm cannons, as BMP service history in Chechnya/ M1128 in Afghanistan etc. have proven this to be a terrible idea.

    At the end of the day, one can never be too sure that these vehicles will never be needed. There would be a large gap in the PLAGF's tank arsenal to replace, and as others have pointed out here; a tank is still a tank. It still outclasses contemporary IFVs like the Stryker and Bradley for comparison.
     
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    It would be useful to upgrade these old Type 59s to the standards of the Type 59G and with the Chinese variant of the Rheinmetall 120 mm gun.

    Type_59G_main_battle_tank_Tanzania_Tanzanian_army_defence_forces_640.jpg
     
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    I thought most of remaining Type 59 are already or being upgraded to 59G
     
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    Not to the standard in the photo sino posted (which I think is also impractical for china). Also, I think they are armed with 125mm caused they basically put a ztz-96 turret on 59 chassis.
     
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    I don't think having 100mm IFV was a bad idea. The IFV was meant to provide direct fire support and anti armor (mostly other IFV). I think the issue, was that it was directly deployed in high density area where even tanks are having trouble navigating through without being hit.

    Back on topic, I am wondering if they have tried to put in APS for Type-59.
     
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    100mm for IFV is not a bad choice.

    25mm/30mm cannon doesn't provide much for HE
     
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    Very similar to the Soviet T-55. They were loved by their crew because of there simple maintenance.
     
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