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Burke Flight III

The first DDG 51 Flight III is set to be named the Harvey C. Barnum Jr. DDG 124 built by General Dynamics Bath Iron Works. It will be the 74th Arleigh Burke-class Destroyer overall. HII first Flight III configured ship is expected to be the Jack H. Lucas DDG 125. It will be the 35th Arleigh Burke-class destroyer to be built at Ingalls Shipbuilding in Pascagoula, Mississipi. Production is expected to start in May 2018.

DDG 51 Flight III characteristics
Lenght: 510 feet
Beam: 66.4 feet
Displacement: 9,200 Tons
Speed: 30+ Knots
Crew: 314
Sensors: SPY-6 radar, SPQ-9B fire control radar, MK20 Mod 1 Electro-Optical Sensor System
Weapons: Mk45 Mod 4 main gun, 96x Mk41 VLS cells, 2x Mk38 Mod 2 25mm RWS, 2x Mk32 triple torpedo launchers
Decoys / EW: SEWIP Block 3, 4x Mk53 Nulka decoy launchers

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Full 9800 t but no Phalanx sure ?
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Yes 1 Phalanx rearward
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the model on the pic 3 is good.
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Idealy a powerful AAW combattant need have 3 tiers defense LR SAMs, MR SAMs and Ciws.
 

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Also i have this discussion but not in the good topic for China and USA
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/plan-type-052c-052d-class-destroyers.t6881/page-159#post-435093

Yet nobody likes to be the second... even in some families can be a problem... and i don' t see China for long term looking for only a 2nd place with all we see...
But quite sure according much experts, watchers US remains number one at less up to 2050.

Allow me for US guys which have Chinese origins i understand completely things as eventualy religions etc... but logicaly and i think same for French which have foreign origins your country is USA you live there, USA welcomed you must defend it.
Exist a diaspora in the world but different if they don' t have nationality of these countries.

China have always a very numerous Army it is a big country with the more numerous population since always at less since we have statistics but have in comparison few energy mainly oïl and gas.
Much coal but it is an energy less used and polluting with actuals concerns for environment...

I absolutely agree Forbin, if you live here in the US, you have an obligation to defend the US, if you don't agree with that, go home, wherever that may be. Understandibly many have family back home, so mixed emotions, but if you are a US citizen, you have a responsibility to love and protect your new home!

Now, I want peace, and I can say without reservation that 95% of Americans long for and desire peace, but if somebody "hurts us", militarily, they get what they deserve! We have always been very measured in our responses, and IMHO fair, but 9/11 reminded us that their is evil in the world bent on US destruction.

I like the old saying from the 60-70s "America, Love it, or Leave it!"
 

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I absolutely agree Forbin, if you live here in the US, you have an obligation to defend the US, if you don't agree with that, go home, wherever that may be. Understandibly many have family back home, so mixed emotions, but if you are a US citizen, you have a responsibility to love and protect your new home!

Now, I want peace, and I can say without reservation that 95% of Americans long for and desire peace, but if somebody "hurts us", militarily, they get what they deserve! We have always been very measured in our responses, and IMHO fair, but 9/11 reminded us that their is evil in the world bent on US destruction.

I like the old saying from the 60-70s "America, Love it, or Leave it!"
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I precise my point is about China, governement, policy etc... in fact economy free since 20 - 25 years but not the country remains a curious contradictory situation but not all the people are responsible and undoubtedly they undergo all this ... !!!
 
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12th CAB and 2CR sling load howitzers in the Grafenwoehr snow

GRAFENWOEHR, Germany-- Two CH-47 Chinook Helicopters from Bravo Company, 1st Battalion, 214th Aviation Regiment, 12th Combat Aviation Brigade, "Big Windy," conducted environmental qualifications and sling-load training with M777 howitzers from Cobra Battery, Field Artillery Squadron, 2nd Cavalry Regiment, here, Jan. 18, 2017. Aircrews practice flying in conditions of low visibility caused by "whiteout" in areas with loose snow.

Aircrews and field artillerymen lower risk for future missions by conducting multiple training iterations in the snowy environment. The aircraft practice performing all of their tactical missions in the snowy conditions, including sling-load operations.

The Field Artillery Dragoons from 2CR conducted sling load operations with their M777 Howitzers in order to train rigging and re-rigging the howitzer for an air assault (elevator drills).

Air assault missions allow field artillerymen to move quickly on the battlefield in order to conduct suppression of enemy aerial defense missions or (SEAD).

The 12th CAB trains and conducts aviation operations throughout the range of military operation in support of U.S. Army Europe, U.S. European Command, NATO, and in support of U.S. Central Command and U.S. African Command and other contingency locations around the globe.

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/us-military-news-reports-data-etc.t1547/page-676#post-435249

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4 types of Battalions in US Army Aviation :

Attack Bat : 24 AH-64D/E, 400 pers
Atk Recc Bat or Sqn, new : 24 AH-64D/E + 12 RQ-7 have replaced Atk Recc Sqn with 21 -30 OH-58D
General Support Bat : 12 CH-47D/F + 23 UH-60L/M, 800 pers
Assault Bat : 30 UH-60L/M

A Aviation Bde with the 4 Bat in more support units, HQ normaly in each Division : 2700 pers, 113 helos ! 12 small UAVs
In addition to these 10 Av Bdes, 2 independents the 16 CAB to Ft Lewis first to received AH-64E and 12th in Germany but more small only 1 Atk Recc Bat and 1 Gen Support Bat reinforced by rotational units.

The 8 ANG Divs have also a Av Bde but in general 1 Attack Bat replaced by 1 Security and Support Bat with 24 UH-72A/UH-1N possible with transfer of AH-64 to active for replaced OH-58 some don' t have now or for soon.

ANG have also 4 Ind Av Bdes whose one have only a Bat.
 

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something from real world:
Leopard 2 in Syria - part 2
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M1 have all rds in the turet so normaly better less vulnerable
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Ofc impossible have a tank with heavy armor all around or the tank do 100 t or more the sides and rear ingeneral protect vs 30 mm rds.
AIFV max in general 30 mm frontal others parts 12.7 - 23 mm dépends.
Alto to consider vs shells in more différents variants or ATK missiles completely different
Also Shield inclination, armor quality etc...

The gun with heavy pressure have a service life saying about 1000 shots.

M1 main differences
M1 only 105 mm gun 52 caliber, 55 rds
M1A1 120 mm same gun than Leopard 2 a 44 caliber 40rds A2 42 rds
M1A1HA and after in more armor with uranium
M1A2 hunter kiler system as on Leclerc, Challenger II, leopard 2 A5/6/7 allow about agange 2 times more fast an ennemy the gunner engage and in the same time the chief search and after transfer elts to gunner etc...

And more the gun is big less rds Inside in general 50 - 60 105 mm or 40 x 120 mm do about 20 kg

In service active, ANG
1180 M-1A2 SEPv2 exept 77 new all are formers M1A1 modernised
80 M-1A1 SA IIRC soon M-1A2 SEPv2

Stored :
4300 M-1A1
2385 M1

USMC modified for amphibious operations
445 M1A1 main weakness no hunter killer sytem as have M-1A2

In 1990 : 11000 tanks US Army all with ANG, 700 USMC
 
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M1 have all rds in the turet so normaly better less vulnerable
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Ofc impossible have a tank with heavy armor all around or the tank do 100 t or more the sides and rear ingeneral protect vs 30 mm rds.
AIFV max in general 30 mm frontal others parts 12.7 - 23 mm dépends.
Alto to consider vs shells in more différents variants or ATK missiles completely different
Also Shield inclination, armor quality etc...

The gun with heavy pressure have a service life saying about 1000 shots.

M1 main differences
M1 only 105 mm gun 52 caliber, 55 rds
M1A1 120 mm same gun than Leopard 2 a 44 caliber 40rds A2 42 rds
M1A1HA and after in more armor with uranium
M1A2 hunter kiler system as on Leclerc, Challenger II, leopard 2 A5/6/7 allow about agange 2 times more fast an ennemy the gunner engage and in the same time the chief search and after transfer elts to gunner etc...

And more the gun is big less rds Inside in general 50 - 60 105 mm or 40 x 120 mm do about 20 kg

In service active, ANG
1180 M-1A2 SEPv2 exept 77 new all are formers M1A1 modernised
80 M-1A1 SA IIRC soon M-1A2 SEPv2

Stored :
4300 M-1A1
2385 M1

USMC modified for amphibious operations
445 M1A1 main weakness no hunter killer sytem as have M-1A2

In 1990 : 11000 tanks US Army all with ANG, 700 USMC

USMC modified for amphibious operations
445 M1A1
2 bat 1st, 2nd with 58 M1A1s in 4 Cies of 14 + 2 with HQ
1 bat reserve 4nd reinforced with 6 cies total : 86 M1A1 !

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Jan 6, 2017
kinda spy games, very dangerous of course ...:
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... and here's the twist: Trump praises the CIA, bristles over inaugural crowd counts
On his first full day in office, President Donald Trump on Saturday berated the media over its coverage of his inauguration, and turned a bridge-building first visit to CIA headquarters into an airing of grievances about "dishonest" journalists. But it was Trump who spread inaccuracies about the size of the crowds at his swearing in.

Standing in front of a memorial for fallen CIA agents, Trump assured intelligence officials, "I am so behind you." He made no mention of his repeated criticism of the intelligence agencies following the election, including his public challenges of their high-confidence assessment that Russia meddled in the White House race to help him win.

"There is nobody that feels stronger about the intelligence community and CIA than Donald Trump," he said, blaming any suggestion of a "feud" on the media.

Trump's decision to travel to CIA headquarters so quickly after taking office was seen as an attempt at a fresh start with the intelligence agencies he will now rely on for guidance as he makes weighty national security decisions. Following his private meeting with top CIA leaders, Trump said the U.S. had been "restrained" in its efforts to combat terrorism, calling the threat "a level of evil we haven't seen."

But in unscripted, stream-of-consciousness remarks, Trump appeared more focused on settling scores with the media.

He defensively touted the crowd size for his swearing-in ceremony, wrongly claiming that the throngs on the National Mall stretched "all the way back to the Washington Monument." Photos and video clearly showed the crowd stopping well short of the landmark.

Trump's visit took place as throngs of women, many of them wearing bright pink, pointy-eared hats, descended on the nation's capital and other cities around the world for marches organized to push back against the new president. Hundreds of protesters lined the motorcade route as Trump sped back to the White House, many screaming and chanting at the president.

The Washington rally alone attracted more than 500,000 people by the unofficial estimate of city officials. It appeared to be more people than attended Trump's inauguration on Friday, but there were no comparable numbers. The city did not release an estimate for the inauguration. The National Park Service does not provide crowd counts.

During his remarks at the CIA, the president claimed the inaugural crowds topped 1 million people, offering no evidence.

Suggestions that weak enthusiasm accompanied his inauguration clearly irked the new president. Shortly after his remarks, he dispatched his press secretary, Sean Spicer, to the White House briefing room to aggressively reinforce the message.

"There's been a lot of talk in the media about holding Donald Trump accountable. And I'm here to tell you that it goes two ways. We're going to hold the press accountable as well," Spicer said in his first on-camera appearance at the White House.

Trump, and later Spicer, also slammed a Time magazine reporter for incorrectly reporting Friday that Trump had moved a bust of Martin Luther King Jr. out of the Oval Office. But Trump followed with a misstatement of his own, saying the reporter had not corrected the mistake. In fact, the item was quickly retracted.

High-level CIA brass stood largely silent during Trump's remarks, though some of the roughly 400 other officers in attendance cheered on the president during his remarks.

California Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, slammed Trump for using his CIA visit to squabble over media coverage.

"He will need to do more than use the agency memorial as a backdrop if he wants to earn the respect of the men and women who provide the best intelligence in the world,' Schiff said.

Former CIA Director John Brennan went further. His former aide Nick Shapiro released a statement saying "Brennan is deeply saddened and angered at Donald Trump's despicable display of self-aggrandizement in front of CIA's Memorial Wall of Agency heroes. Brennan says that Trump should be ashamed of himself."

The inaugural celebrations have been shadowed by reports that the CIA and other federal agencies are investigating Russian interference in the presidential election on behalf of Trump. McClatchy reported that the investigation included whether money from the Kremlin covertly aided Trump. The New York Times said agencies were examining intercepted communications and financial transactions between Russian officials and Trump's associates.

FBI Director James Comey has declined to confirm or describe the nature of the government's investigation, both during a congressional hearing and in closed-door meetings with members of Congress.

Saturday marked the end of three days of inaugural celebrations, with Trump and his family attending a national prayer service traditionally held for the new president. The president and his wife, Melania, and Vice President Mike Pence and his wife, Karen, sat in a front pew at Washington National Cathedral for the morning service.

The interfaith service is a tradition for new presidents and is hosted by the Episcopal parish. But the decision to hold a prayer session for Trump sparked debate among Episcopalians opposed to his policies.

Bishop Mariann Budde of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington wrote in a blog post that while she shared "a sense of outrage at some of the president-elect's words and actions," she felt an obligation to welcome all people without qualification, especially those who disagree and need to find a way to work together.

Trump arrived at the cathedral mid-morning. The service included readings and prayers from Protestant, Jewish, Sikh, Mormon, Buddhist, Roman Catholic, Baha'i, Episcopal, Hindu and Native American leaders. But the program was remarkable for the large number of evangelicals participating, including two former presidents of the Southern Baptist Convention, the country's largest evangelical denomination. Several speakers had served as Trump advisers and supporters who spoke at the Republican National Convention.
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USMC modified for amphibious operations
445 M1A1
2 bat 1st, 2nd with 58 M1A1s in 4 Cies of 14 + 2 with HQ
1 bat reserve 4nd reinforced with 6 cies total : 86 M1A1 !

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M-1 Abrams in the U.S. Marine Corps As of March 2016, the Marines had 445 M-1A1 tanks in service.12 The Marine version of the M1A1 includes a Deep Water Fording Kit (DWFK), hardware to accommodate the Position Location Reporting System (PLRS), and additional tie-down points for storage on U.S. naval vessels.


Files also for Army's M-1-2-3 and Stryckers
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But the number of US Army tanks is not of 1260 i consider 1550 after i have check more in details
In service active, ANG
1180 M-1A2 SEPv2 exept 77 new all are formers M1A1 modernised
80 M-1A1 SA IIRC soon M-1A2 SEPv2

Considering
1/ Almost 3 ANG Armored Bdes or Cavalry with M1A1SA about 300 + some reserve etc... : 350 M1A1SA
With the exception of two ARNG ABCTs (155th ABCT [MS ARNG] and the 116th ABCT [ID ARNG]) and one battalion (2-137th Combined Arms Battalion [KS ARNG]) that are equipped with the M-1A2 SEPv2 tank, the remaining five ARNG ABCTs are equipped with the M-1A1 Situational Awareness (SA) tank
2/ The 9 active Bdes and the 2 others ANG Bdes : 1000 + saying 100 - 200 : 1200 M-1A2 SEPv2
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But no numbers in only USMC confirmed 445 M1A1

On Wiki only the total for all M1 variants we don' t have exact number i have calculated above approx.

Stored and production :
~ 3200 M1 stored, 3270 build
~ 3000 M1A1 stored , 4570 build + 220 for USMC which have about 225 formers US Army and to consider about 1100 modified in M-1A2 SEPv2
77 M1A2 build

Units : US Army in combined arms bat with 29 M1 ( + 30 M2 ) 3 by brigades now have changed since 2016 i don' t think for all Armored Bdes 2 bat with 29 M1, 1 with 14 and Cav Sqn have now 14
before in Bat of 58 as active USMC bat, 2 bat by Armored brigades or 1 in Mech Bdes.
 
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