UK Military News, Reports, Data, etc.

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    Jura, are you serious or are you just here to troll?

    The Arrowhead 140 design was the most flexible potential option of the three solutions offered. The others were a much lighter MEKO baseline or the untested "Leander" from BAE, which was also probably lighter and very risky.

    Arrowhead 140 was the option of choice for pretty much everyone with a non-commercial interest in the Type 31. The Iver Huitfeldt is a good ship and larger than the Type 23. Really there's plenty going for it. The only real issue is the modules installed, but even then it can be upgraded in the future.
     
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    I offer you, genius, the part of my post Today at 7:37 PM you omitted:

    shame on those compliant to such a "solution" mainly the current Admiralty!

    plus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_ships_of_the_Bangladesh_Navy
     
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    How exactly does that expand on what I quoted? I dare you to explain why Arrowhead wasn't the best of the designs available. Or indeed why it's flawed at all.

    Look, I get that you don't like the UK. But this is a serious place for discussion. If you want to make uninformed comments that place on people's prejudices, I'm sure there's a sub-reddit somewhere you can post on.
     
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    It's nonsensical. T31 is by any stretch a decent Frigate. It's no Type 26, but then again that's in a league of its own. Does that make every other Frigate an OPV or Corvette? Of course not. That would be silly

    We don't know the weapons fit yet, but stick a freebie 4.5 inch gun on, Artisan, Sea Ceptor, 2 x DS30M, Wildcat with Stingray, Sea Venom and Martlet and the i-SSGM that the RN are looking to get and its a very capable General Purpose Frigate by any stretch of the imagination.

    Stick a containerised CAPTAS-4, some recycled torpedo tubes and CAMM-ER on it down the road and it becomes an excellent Frigate....that will probably not happen, but the potential is there.
     
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    Is that actually helping the discussion?
    Does it move thing forward at all in any way?
     
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    oh and related to your "I get that you don't like the UK", I went to Greenwich last year to admire this:
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    now go ahead, praise your "frigate"
     
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    Jura, if you can't explain why the Type 31 is a bad design, regardless of whether or not you claim to be a fan of the Royal Navy past or present, you are trolling - especially if you're pointing to the Bangladeshi Navy as being comparable to the RN. Because we're talking about the design here. Because the current news is about the design that has been picked.

    Also I have no idea what you think a frigate is. The Type 31 is probably going to be a bit larger than the Type 23. Are you going to claim that the Type 23 isn't a real frigate? Or can you actually explain why the Type 31 is not a proper frigate?

    If you've had your fun already, don't bother replying. But if you have a point to make, explain it rather than be sarcastic. Because right now no one understands the point you're trying to make. That's your failing, not ours.
     
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    OK so you don't know what countries are getting even lighter models like MEKO2000; Daewooo DF- and DW-; Sigma; Gowind,

    and you don't know the prices and capabilities of those models,

    so you can't see the Type31 is going to be a tin can considering the budget,

    but I think you can see the RN goes downhill,

    and I add people involved in this should protest, instead there's "a decent frigate" type of argumentation,

    cheers
     
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    fancy article
    DSEI: U.K. Crafting New Command and Control Regime as Royal Navy Grows https://news.usni.org/2019/09/13/ds...ommand-and-control-regime-as-royal-navy-grows
    someone please page when the RN, which "grows" according to that article, commissions a warship bigger than OPVs and other than the PoW
     
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