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from DefenseNews NDAA Watch: 7 things to track in this week’s defense policy bill debate
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"... Turkey tensions. The bill would bar deliveries of any U.S. foreign military sale to the NATO ally until the secretaries of state and defense report to Congress on the U.S.-Turkish relationship—due within 60 days of the act’s passage.


Bill language spotlights the U.S. F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter, which are to be co-produced with Turkey, as well as sales of the Patriot surface-to-air missile, CH-47 Chinook helicopter, AH-1 attack helicopter, UH-60 Blackhawk and F-16 fighter jet.

The bill would express a sense of Congress that the relationship is strained and that it would be strained further by Turkey’s
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of the Russian-made S-400 air and missile defense system, which is incompatible with NATO systems.

Turkey has reportedly vowed to retaliate if the U.S. halts weapons sales to the country. The relationship has deteriorated over whether the U.S. will back
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against the Islamic State."
 

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Turkey to receive first F-35 fighter from US next month
The
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will deliver the first
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joint strike fighter to
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on June 21 as part of a longstanding partnership between the two allies, despite attempts by the U.S. Congress to block the procurement of such weaponry to the Turkish government.

According to defense industry authorities, the delivery of the first of the 30
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fighters will be made on June 21 in a ceremony that will be held in the U.S.

The Turkish Armed Forces (TSK), which are a part of the U.S. Department of Defense’s JSF program, along with a number of prominent NATO allies including the United Kingdom, Italy and the Netherlands, have been planning to upgrade their air force fleets with 100
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aircrafts to be jointly produced under this program. The first package, however, is about the delivery of 30
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fighters.

Pilots from the TSK will receive intense training at the headquarters of the main producer of the
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, Lockheed Martin, before the fighters will be transported to
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later this year, sources have said. Sources have also informed that arrangements are underway on military bases in
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where the F-35s will be deployed.

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’s current air defense is based on strong F-16 fleets. The TSK is planning to change some of these fleets with the incoming F-35s.

The delivery of the first
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fighter will take place at a time when a number of U.S. congressmen have been urging the U.S. administration to suspend the procurement of these fighters to
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because of the latter’s decision to upgrade its air defense systems with Russian S-400 anti-ballistic missile systems.

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has strongly criticized the U.S. Congress’ move and vowed to retaliate. “If they take such a step at a moment when we are trying to mend our bilateral ties, they will definitely get a response from
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. There is no longer the old
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,” Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu told private broadcaster CNN Türk in an interview on May 6.

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Should U.S. Block F-35 Deliveries To Turkey?
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In 2019, Turkey is scheduled to receive two major new pieces of military equipment: the U.S.-made
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stealthy fifth-generation fighter and the Russian-made S-400 surface-to-air missile system.

Deployment of both systems in the same country has already made U.S. and NATO officials so concerned about security that the Pentagon and the
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are trying to halt S-400 deliveries to Ankara. However, U.S. lawmakers are divided over exactly how they should respond.

One bipartisan group of senators is moving to block the transfer of
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F-35s to Turkey, even as Lockheed prepares to deliver the first Turkish aircraft to Luke AFB, Arizona. And a contingent of House lawmakers is considering a provision in a fiscal 2019 defense policy bill that would stop short of restricting F-35 deliveries but could impede shipments of other U.S. exports there.

The back-and-forth on Capitol Hill adds another layer of complexity to the controversial geopolitical situation that the Pentagon and State Department have been grappling with. But it remains to be seen whether the U.S. will ultimately take any concrete steps to prevent the sale.

The U.S. has $9.7 billion in active Foreign Military Sales (FMS) with Turkey, the last of which was a $70 million deal for laser-guided Joint Direct Attack Munitions (
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), which Congress was informed of in 2015. Between 2013 and 2017, the U.S. made another $1.7 billion in direct commercial sales there. Turkey is also an original production partner making key components for the F-35, “a testament to the strength of our defense trade partnership and continued potential for future growth,” a State Department official notes.

The U.S. has long tried to sell Turkey air and missile defense systems such as
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’s Patriot. But Ankara ultimately opted for the Almaz Central Design Bureau’s S-400 in a $2.5 billion deal. The systems were originally scheduled for delivery in 2020, but that date has since been accelerated.

“In pursuing a U.S. air and missile defense solution, Turkey would benefit from top-of-the-line technology, as well as NATO interoperability,” the official says. “In contrast, an S-400 acquisition could potentially trigger actions under the Countering Americas Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (Caatsa) and have serious ramifications for U.S.’ ability to do business with Turkey across the defense trade spectrum.”

But as the date for deliveries nears, lawmakers may take additional action.

Standalone legislation proposed by Sens. James Lankford (R-Okla.), Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) and Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) would prohibit the use of U.S. government funds to transfer F-35 aircraft, intellectual property or technical data related to maintenance support to Turkey, according to the text of the bill.

Because the sale is not by the U.S. government but by the international F-35 consortium, Congress does not have the legal authority to block it. Ankara is a development partner on the program and plans to purchase 100 F-35As in total, the first of which will soon be delivered to Luke AFB.

Given the limitations, lawmakers appear to have realized the best approach to preventing Ankara from receiving the Joint Strike Fighter is to eliminate funds for the planned transfer of the jets from Luke to Turkey in 2019.

Blocking the transfer of intellectual property and technical data would also mean Ankara could not perform maintenance on U.S. engines or service their own aircraft. Turkey has been chosen to be the hub of
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engine depot overhaul for all the European operators. Engine production and maintenance would take place at the First Air Supply and Maintenance Military Center in Eskisehir, which already services
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engines, among others.

Turkish industry stands to make $12 billion through F-35 work, Lockheed estimates.

Under the senators’ bill, President Donald Trump could waive the limitation, but the terms are stringent. Trump must certify to Congress that Turkey is not taking steps to degrade NATO interoperability; exposing NATO assets to hostile actors; degrading the general security of NATO member countries; seeking to import or purchase defense articles from a foreign country under U.S. sanctions; or unlawfully detaining U.S. citizens.

Officials are likely concerned that if Turkey operates both the S-400 and the F-35, the fighter’s security could be compromised. And NATO allies, including the U.S., see the S-400 as a security issue for NATO’s wider missile defense network.

Czech Army Gen. Petr Pavel, chairman of the NATO Military Committee, says the S-400 is not just a sophisticated target-acquisition radar. Even more important is that it is a database, he says, and Russian experts who come to install the system in Turkey could populate the database with NATO data. “There is a big challenge,” Pavel cautions.

The House provision stops far short of prohibiting the sale of F-35s, because such a restriction would hurt the U.S. and its allies more than it would affect Turkey, according to a House Republican aide.

Rather, the legislation seeks a report on the impact that “increasing strains” between the U.S. and Turkey, “caused by provocative actions taken by the Turkish government over the past year, will have on all U.S. military and diplomatic activities currently conducted in Turkey, including joint operation of the F-35 and other military platforms.” Other FMS sales, such as JDAM deliveries, could also be delayed.

Despite recent congressional moves, experts say it is unlikely the U.S. will take punitive action against Turkey over the S-400 purchase.

Kate Kizer, policy director of The Center for International Policy’s Win Without War program, says the U.S. government’s “paranoia” about losing market share to China and Russia is “a little bit overblown.

“The paradox of the U.S. being the largest arms exporter, I think, is that there is a paranoia, particularly in Congress, about losing the market share in some way. If we don’t sell these weapons to [Turkey] then China and Russia are going to move in and do it and then we will lose our ally,” she says. “The whole baby gets thrown out with the bathwater.”

Pieter Wezeman, senior researcher with the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, says Russia has not been successful in marketing its technology to the rest of the world. There is a big difference, he says, between the one or two S-400s Turkey will receive from Russia and the more-than-100 F-35 buy.

“They haven’t really shown that they are very good in transferring technology and helping other states to build up their arms industry,” says Wezeman. “I really doubt if we are going to see a very big change in the arms transfer relationship between the U.S. and Turkey.”
 
May 18, 2018
now noticed (dated May 15, 2018)
Should U.S. Block F-35 Deliveries To Turkey?
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and
Turkey threatens retaliation if new bill stops F-35 sale
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has vowed reprisals if the U.S. Congress passes a defense policy bill that prevents the sale of
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fighter jets to Ankara.

The Senate Armed Services Committee on Thursday passed its version of the $716 billion
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with language that directs the Pentagon to submit a plan to Congress to remove the NATO ally from participation in the F-35 program.

“According to agreement, everybody has a mission and we expect everyone to fulfill these missions,” said Turkish Foreign Ministry spokesman Hami Aksoy,
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reports. “Such steps are breach of the spirit of our alliance with the U.S. As our minister stated, if such steps are taken, we will have no other choice but to respond accordingly.”

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said earlier this month the country would retaliate, after the House version of the NDAA was unveiled. That bill contains a broader prohibition on any foreign military sales to Turkey until the Pentagon reports to Congress on the impact of U.S.-Turkey tensions.

The Senate approved its version of the massive bill after meeting behind closed doors this week, but the text of the bill itself is not expected for about another week. The panel was steered by its No. 2 Republican, Sen. Jim Inhofe, of Oklahoma, as its chairman, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was battling brain cancer at home in Arizona.

The NDAA is several steps from becoming law. The House passed its version earlier Thursday, and the Senate must pass its version before the two are reconciled over the summer into a final bill for both chambers to pass.

One provision in the SASC-passed NDAA says the Senate believes Turkey should be sanctioned if it completes the purchase of the S-400 long-range air and anti-missile defense system from Russia.

Separate language from Sens. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., and James Lankford, R-Okla., targets the F-35 sale. It directs a report with timelines to remove the Turkish government from participation in the F-35 program with the least impact on other international program partners.

The lawmakers cited Turkey’s imprisonment of American Pastor Andrew Brunson as well as the S-400 deal. Turkish officials have said the purchase is a matter of national sovereignty, but NATO members have expressed concerns because the S-400 is not interoperable with NATO systems.

“I truly wish we could instead be working to pass an NDAA that would strengthen the relationship between Turkey and the United States,” Tillis said. “However, the Turkish government’s recent actions, including the wrongful treatment of Pastor Brunson, has made this congressional response both necessary and appropriate.”

“There is tremendous hesitancy [about] transferring sensitive F-35 planes and technology to a nation who has purchased a Russian air defense system designed to shoot these very planes down,” Shaheen said in a statement. “This amendment is meant to give the Departments of State and Defense the guidance and congressional support they need to ensure that this does not happen at this time.”

The congressional action comes as the Trump administration pressures Ankara to rethink the S-400 purchase, which was announced in December.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo testified Thursday on Capitol Hill that he had spoken with Cavuşoğlu in recent days to push for Brunson’s return and implore Ankara not to buy the S-400.

Turkey’s capacity to access the F-35, he said, “is still very much a live issue.”

U.S. Ambassador to NATO Kay Bailey Hutchison called the purchase “very serious” at a public forum on Wednesday.

“They’re a very important partner,” she said of Turkey. “But no partner in NATO has ever purchased a Russian system that is not capable of being interoperable with our NATO systems.”
 

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Turkey May Buy Russian Su-57 Jets, If Delivery of F-35 Jets Suspended

MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Ankara is likely to buy Russian Su-57 fighter jets if Washington decides to suspend the delivery of F-35 jets in response to the purchase of Russian S-400 anti-missile systems, the Yeni Safak newspaper reported Sunday.

According to sources, the Russian-Turkish cooperation on military software and technology exchange discussed during Russian President Vladimir Putin's visit to Turkey on April 3 may also include the delivery of Sukhoi jets, namely the Su-57, a direct competitor of the F-35, the Yeni Safak newspaper reported.

Russia and Turkey signed a loan agreement last December to supply S-400 air defense systems to Ankara. The deal triggered disagreements between Turkey and the United States, with the latter threatening to impose sanctions against Ankara, as Washington believes that the weapon was incompatible with NATO defenses. On Friday, Putin criticized the United States for trying to force Turkey out of the deal with Russia.

On Thursday, US Senate Armed Services Committee released details of its version of annual defense policy bill. The draft, in particular, implies that the delivery of US F-35 jets to Turkey should be suspended in response to Ankara's purchase of Russian S-400 anti-missile systems.

Russia's Su-57 fifth-generation fighter jet, formerly known as Prospective Airborne Complex of Frontline Aviation (PAK FA), is a single-seat, twin-engine multirole "stealth" aircraft designed for air superiority and attack roles. It is equipped with an advanced avionics system and airborne active phased array radar as well as with a variety of high-precision weaponry. The jet carried out its maiden flight in 2010 and is still being tested by the military.


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TerraN_EmpirE

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Turkey May Buy Russian Su-57 Jets, If Delivery of F-35 Jets Suspended
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There are more issues then just the S400 really, I view it more as Icing on the cake of problems between the US and Erdogan's Turkey. Yet at the same time this is more Sputnik pumping out daydreams. It's highly unlikely that Turkey could Justify the mission type or investment in SU57. It's also contrary to there Trend of trying for indigenous military products.
 

SteelBird

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There are more issues then just the S400 really, I view it more as Icing on the cake of problems between the US and Erdogan's Turkey. Yet at the same time this is more Sputnik pumping out daydreams. It's highly unlikely that Turkey could Justify the mission type or investment in SU57. It's also contrary to there Trend of trying for indigenous military products.
Or this may be just a strategy of negotiation like what happened in the past; pretending to buy HQ-9 but the final purchase turned out to be S-400. Anyway, I think F-35 will finally arrive in Turkey because the U.S don't wanna risk to lose its important ally to Russia.
 
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