Terrorism against Chinese targets

Equation

Lieutenant General
People's war is excatly what this is. It is not the state's duty only. It is the whole nation, especially the local population. There is no nutural stand in case of fighting terrorism.

I can see from the first photo that some offiers are ethnic Uyghurs, the second photo shows the villegers are Uyghurs. If the Chinese state is protecting populations from terrorists which I firmly believe so, she will receive full support from Uyghur populations and the victory is garenteed.
That is bad news for "Asia Free" Radio propagandist seeing both Chinese and ethnic Uyghurs working together to fighting home grown (with outside foreign help) terrorists. And of course you will never hear about them reporting about it either.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
I suggest we make it an obsession to punctuate terrorists with quotes when we make comments in the Western media about terrorists operating in the West. Do it even for that sole purpose.

No, we are better than that.

We should call things as we see them, and not deliberately exploit the death of innocents to score cheap political points like these pathetic examples of humanity in the press who does it.
 

Ultra

Junior Member
Congratulations to these Chinese heroes.

Any and all terrorists in China must be ruthlessly exterminated to set an example - especially if they are foreign for that is an act of war.

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Is it just me or am I reading this wrong? One of the moderator here is moderating his post because he congratulated the heroes who exterminated the terrorists in China. To the moderator this is advocating the killing of innocents? What? Terrorists are innocent people in China?
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
Is it just me or am I reading this wrong? One of the moderator here is moderating his post because he congratulated the heroes who exterminated the terrorists in China. To the moderator this is advocating the killing of innocents? What? Terrorists are innocent people in China?
It's you willfully or mistakenly taking the moderator's original post out of context.

Here's the entire post from #111 and it shows the moderator (Jeff Head) conducted affairs in his usual fair and professional manner. Just in case you missed it a second time, note the first sentence on what to do with families, employers, and other innocents.

counterprime said:
Furthermore, once the perpetrators are uncovered, their families and their employer's families should be slaughtered as well.
Counterprime, SD does not condone or allow encouragement for acts of senseless violence against innocents.

Go after the terrorists and bring them to abject justice...but do not post here about killing all of their relatives too.

That is not justice...it is senseless revenge.

That portion fo your post has been deleted.

Any more of that will lead to a suspension.

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taxiya

Brigadier
Registered Member
That is bad news for "Asia Free" Radio propagandist seeing both Chinese and ethnic Uyghurs working together to fighting home grown (with outside foreign help) terrorists. And of course you will never hear about them reporting about it either.
A friendly correction, Chinese is an umbrella term (in and around China) for very subjects inside China. You might have wanted to say "Han" which is the term used in East Asia to refer to the people that is customly called "Chinese" by westerners. Han is the name that is used by Mongols, Tibetens, Koreans etc, nobody in this part the world ever used the term "Chinese". To be more precisly, it was in the Mongol Yuan dynasty that the term "Han" began to be used to refer to all local people south of great wall and north of Yantz river regardless ethnity.

One good example is the last Chinese dynasty, the Qing. It was founded by Manchu an ethnic minority. But everybody in the west call the dynasty a Chinese dynasty, and the empire the Chinese empire. But when referring to today's terrorism in China today, over the sudden, it sounds like Chinese vs. Uyghurs.

Using Chinese as a term in parrelle to Uyghurs, or any other ethnic names can either unintensionally or deliberately create a ethnic minorities vs. ethnic majority image.

English is another language, especially it is developed in a totally different world and cultural background, the terms or words do not match the reality in east Asia, we should be very careful with every words that we choose.

When playing a game, make sure play it in your own terms, never ever play by your oponent's rule, otherwise you loose at the first step.
 
A group of terrorists who attacked a coal miner are hunted down by police forces and local farmers recently,
See, people's war is Chinese way, I doubt China would take any military action to ISIS, if most people of an area support religion extremists, then simply avoid going there.

Just to be completely clear - the hunted terrorists attacked an entire coal mine, not a single coal miner, resulting in dozens of people killed including civilians and local police.

I suggest we make it an obsession to punctuate terrorists with quotes when we make comments in the Western media about terrorists operating in the West. Do it even for that sole purpose.

Only if that is at least followed through with pointing out the double standards pervasive in Western media. Ideally examination of the wider and deeper contexts, causes, and history of such terrorism would also be presented every time as well.
 
To be clear, Western press are reporting distorted narrative and claims that China has declared war on ISIS. This is the actual statement made by President Xi.

"China strongly condemns the brutal murder of a Chinese national by Islamic State," President Xi said, according to official China Central Television. "I express my deep condolences to the families of the victim.

"Terrorism is the common enemy of humanity. China resolutely opposes terrorism in any form and resolutely fights against violent, terrorist, criminal activities that challenge the bottom line of human civilization."

Xi also called on government departments to increase security "outside China's borders". The Chinese army has around two million soldiers at its disposal.

On Mali Attack, Xi condemned the Mali attacks as "cruel and savage" saying: "With no regard for human conscience and moral baseline, the terrorist organisation still carried out this cold-blooded and violent action. The Chinese government strongly condemns this inhuman action and will definitely hold the perpetrators accountable."
 

siegecrossbow

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Kill it with fire!

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Chinese forces used a flamethrower to force more than 10 "terrorists" from a cave in the western Xinjiang region, the military's top newspaper said on Monday, in a graphic account of the hunt for what Beijing called foreign-led extremists.
China said on Friday that security forces had recently killed 28 members of a group that carried out a deadly attack at a coal mine in Aksu in September, the first official mention of the incident reported by Radio Free Asia about two months ago.

In its account, which could not be independently verified, the official People's Liberation Army Daily said armed police had tracked the attackers into the mountains "like eagles discovering their prey".

The PLA Daily said the special forces used flash grenades and tear gas to force the attackers out of hiding, but when those methods failed, a senior officer said: "Use the flamethrower".

After that, the newspaper said the attackers came out at the troops wielding knives and that they were then "completely annihilated".

China's government says it faces a serious threat from Islamist militants and separatists in energy-rich Xinjiang, on the border of central Asia, where hundreds have died in violence in recent years.

Rights groups say China has never presented convincing evidence of the existence of a cohesive militant group fighting the government. Much of the unrest, they argue, is due to frustration at controls on the culture and religion of the Muslim Uighur people who live in Xinjiang.

Beijing vehemently denies accusations of rights abuses, though independent verification of the situation in Xinjiang is hard because of tight government controls on visits by foreign reporters.

In a statement in response to the PLA Daily report, Dilxat Raxit, a spokesman for exile group the World Uyghur Congress, said: "The Paris attacks gave China a political excuse to brazenly use flamethrowers to clamp down on unarmed Uighurs who have no just legal protection and who seek to avoid arrest."

Senior Chinese officials have increasingly described the security challenges in Xinjiang as an important front in the global fight against terrorism. Western nations, however, have been reluctant to cooperate in China's anti-terrorism campaign there, nervous about being implicated in possible rights abuses.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Some are not going to like what I am about to write, but I have recently had a conversation with someone who has had first hand experience with terrorism in Xinjiang in the late 80s and early 90s.

This was the time when word of ethnic tensions first started to go mainstream, although there was always a lot of racial tensions since they very start, it was never well organised or that coherent. With some villages welcoming the Han with open arms while others would lynch people who marrying Han Chinese.

But the general trend in the late 80s and early 90s was fairly peaceful.

At the time, China was engaging in a lot of infrastructure construction projects, mainly in the oil and gas sector. Xinjiang is a very sparsely populated and underdeveloped part of China, more so back then.

Then, out of the blue, they started to experience a wave of attacks by people in jeeps and other off-road vehicles or even horseback who would drive/ride up to a section of pipeline and blow it up or set it on fire. Often within view of Chinese oil and construction workers, who just couldn't get there in time, and didn't really have the means to do anything even if the could get on scene.

The Frontier Corps were deployed as security, and given permission to open fire if anyone tried to attack the pipelines.

At the same time, police, PAP and other agencies co-ordinated to track down any attackers who fled.

Eventually, this led to the discovery that the overwhelming majority of the attackers were not real believers or terrorists (often they didn't even know what they were attacking), but dirt poor farmers and herders, who lived in abject poverty, often in appalling conditions.

So when strangers with foreign accents offered them hard currency which amounted to several years' worth of their annual household income (which amounted to a pitifully low dollar amount), they were pretty much ready to sell their souls.

They were given weapons and explosives, sometimes vehicles and drivers as well, and told to blow up the pipelines.

When the Frontier Corps started using lethal force to protect the pipelines, they weren't killing true terrorists, just really poor and desperate people who were employed by foreign agencies.

This helped created the real true believers and terrorists, as they watched their fathers and uncles and brothers get gunned down and/or hunted down by Chinese police.

I think China did make some mistakes by using the unreliable (and often trigger happy) Frontier Corps rather than police or even army, and fast tracking cases through the courts, giving the impression that the criminal justice system was a tool of oppression rather than justice (it didn't help that most locals didn't understand what the pipelines were or the damage the bombings and attacks were causing.

However, the root of the racial tensions could be traced to the men with foreign accents who effectively send the locals on suicide missions.

In hindsight, it should be pretty obvious that their main aim and goal wasn't to try and disrupt the flow of oil and gas, but rather to create martyrs and turn the local population against Beijing and the Han.

A few people with suitcases full of cash, small amounts of explosives and weapons effectively manufactured the racial tensions and violence in Xinjiang, and they have never let up.
 
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