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Mr T

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I personally doubt this will happen with the present political relationship between Taipei and Beijing and various espionage cases that originate from Taiwan.

Such a deal is so off the cards you could probably risk betting your house against it happening. Japan will not sell the Soryu-class, whether in plans or finished items, to Taiwan. I think they would be less concerned about the KMT's relationship with China as the spy issue that you refer to. But more than that, Japan isn't going to provoke China by offering such top-line military equipment/assistance to Taiwan. They want decent relations.

Now if you're talking about older designs, e.g. Yushio or Harushio, maybe at some point in the future. But not now - Japan has only just lifted its self-imposed arms embargo.
 

Zetageist

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I am wondering if it is possible to increase buoyancy and stability internally without resign the entire hull?

Navy stops Tuo Jiang-class trials

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OVERLOADED?A senior navy commander said that the original design was altered to add more combat functions, exacerbating flaws and leading to insufficient buoyancy
By Lo Tien-pin and Jason Pan / Staff reporters

The Republic of China (ROC) Navy has put a stop to trial runs of the new missile-carrying Tuo Jiang-class 618 stealth corvette due to serious design flaws that have undermined the vessel’s operations, senior navy commander Lu Li-shih (呂禮詩) told the Liberty Times (the Taipei Times’ sister newspaper) on Wednesday.

Lu said that several fundamentals flaws in the corvette’s design, along with it being packed with extra weapons and equipment systems, resulted in the vessel having insufficient buoyancy, which affected its maneuverability and stability.

Lu is a former captain of a Jin Jiang-class patrol vessel, which are similar to the 618.

“The core design concept was to build a stealth fast-attack corvette with high maneuverability,” Lu said. “However, later on the design was altered in a bid to make the Tuo Jiang-class ‘invincible warships,’ loading it with anti-aircraft and anti-ship weaponry, along with submarine-hunting and other combat functions.”

“It was like changing the design for a dress while a lady was already wearing it,” he said.
In addition to 16 Hsiung Feng-class missiles and two torpedo launchers onboard, the navy reportedly also has plans for the 618 to carry Sky Sword 2 guided missiles.

However, even without being fully loaded with fuel, equipment and weapons systems, the vessel had already reached its maximum displacement in calm water conditions in the harbor, Lu said.

“It is vital to have a patrol warship that can carry out missions in strong winds and high seas that can arise around Taiwan,” the commander said. “We must ensure the safety of all officers and sailors aboard the ship; that is the most serious challenge.”

Meanwhile, the Navy Command Headquarters said in a statement that the 618 is the first of its class and as a “prototype,” it was being tested to determine its capabilities and limitations.

“The Tuo Jiang class is a different design from traditional warships,” the statement said. “It is designed to be able to counter various threats using modular weapons systems, therefore its payload can vary depending on the situation.”

“Therefore the views are due to a misunderstanding regarding the vessel’s design concept and its operational objectives,” it said.

As the 618 is a prototype, handed over to the navy in December last year, the purpose of testing is to check the corvette’s performance and its limitations, while testing operational variables and deviations from its original design, the statement said.

Any issues that arise can then be corrected and plans reconfigured for subsequent production of more Tuo Jiang-class vessels, it added.
 

Blitzo

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I am wondering if it is possible to increase buoyancy and stability internally without resign the entire hull?

Navy stops Tuo Jiang-class trials

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At this point I think all they can really do is cut back of some of their desired weapons... unless they want to risk stability issues.
 

Franklin

Captain
This video is about the AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-kuo upgrade program. This is a plane that is not being talked about here and there is very little information out there about this platform. Now it says in the video that the new prototype of the AIDC IDF C/D was build around 2005. But I thought that the plant closed down in 2000 after the last of the production run of 130 planes has finished. So if they can still build new prototypes from scratch in 2005 after the plant has closed. Why can't they restart the program and build more production planes ? Because right now Taiwan isn't building any new planes but simply upgrading the older ones.

 

Franklin

Captain
Interesting piece of news. Taiwan like the other claimants in the South China Sea is hard at work building on their island. But apparently when Taiwan couldn't get some supplies and equipment to the island they asked for Chinese help and recieved it.

Mainland Firm Lends a Hand as Taiwan Expands South China Sea Presence

A Shanghai shipping firm helped deliver materials Taiwan needs to construct a port in the disputed Spratly Islands.

Taiwan sought help from a mainland Chinese shipping firm to further the construction of a port in the South China Sea, Reuters reports. Citing a coastguard official, Reuters said that a vessel from Shanghai Zhenhua Heavy Industry was contracted to bring materials to Itu Aba Island, the largest of the Spratlys, which is controlled by Taipei but also claimed by Vietnam, the Philippines, and mainland China.

According to Reuters, the vessel was escorted to Itu Aba by a Taiwanese patrol boat and monitored by Taiwanese ships as the cargo was unloaded. Taiwan turned to Zhenhua Heavy Industry after it couldn’t find a Taiwanese firm to deliver 11 cassions, watertight retaining structures to be used in building a pier on the disputed island. Liao Jaw-ching, director of the construction unit responsible for the port-building project on Itu Aba, told Reuters there were no Taiwanese ships able to deliver the cassions. “This kind of ship is not very common anywhere in the world,” Liao said.

Mainland China generally tolerates Taiwan’s moves in the South China Sea as being on behalf of the territorial interests of the Chinese people as a whole, including both the mainland and Taiwan. After all, both governments’ claims are based off the same source – the original eleven-dashed line issued by the Republic of China government in 1947. Last year, a spokesman from mainland China’s Taiwan Affairs Office suggested both sides of the Taiwan Strait should work together to further their claims. “Safeguarding the country’s sovereignty and territorial integrity as well as the overall interests of the Chinese nation should be a common obligation of compatriots of the two sides,” the spokesman said.

Beijing’s interpretations of Taiwanese claims in the region allows for cooperation in a way we would never see elsewhere. It’s impossible to imagine, for example, a Chinese shipping vessel being sent to deliver goods to be used for Philippine or Vietnamese construction projects on disputed islets. However, Taiwan is not likely to pursue substantial cooperation with Beijing on the South China Sea issue — even the use of a Chinese commercial vessel has concerned some Taiwanese legislators.

While the subtext of cross-strait cooperation is interesting, the greater point is that Taiwan, just like the mainland, is actively building up the territory it currently possesses in the disputed region. Like other regional claimants, Taiwan is concerned that a general military build-up in the region could threaten its existing control over disputed islands. As a reaction, Taipei is fortifying its position on Itu Aba.

Taiwan plans to spend $100 million upgrading the existing port and airstrip on Itu Aba. According to Reuters, the new facilities, scheduled to be completed by the end of this year, will allow Itu Aba to host “3,000-tonne naval frigates and coastguard cutters”, while also expanding the airstrip to accommodate Hercules C-130 aircraft. Last October, Taiwanese officials said they were “discussing” the possibility of permanently stationing armed vessels at the island.

However, these moves have been largely overlooked as analysts focus on Beijing instead. Itu Aba was not included in the Philippines’ arbitration case against China, an omission that sparked some controversy in Manila. Still, both Vietnam and the Philippines spoke out against the possibility of Taiwan permanently basing armed vessels at Itu Aba.

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/taiwan-military-news-and-discussion-part-ii.t3396/page-218
 

Franklin

Captain
China is going to hold a military parade this year september in of the end of WWII 70 years ago. It seems that Taiwan is planning to do something similar.

Taiwan Plans Military Display to Mark WW2 Anniversary

The KMT is eager to make sure its contributions to World War II are not overlooked.
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Taiwan will hold a military display sometime this summer to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the end of World War II, a Taiwanese defense ministry spokesperson said last week.

According to CNA, spokesman Major General Lou Shou-he told reporters that Taiwan was planning a military display to be held in northern Taiwan, in Hsinchu county. Lo made the comment in response to a question about whether or not Taiwanese President Ma Ying-jeou would inspect Taiwanese troops on the anniversary of the end of the World War II.

During his first briefing before Taiwan’s legislature, new Defense Minister Kao Kuang-chi said the military display would be similar in scale to the one held in 2011, the 100th anniversary of the Republic of China. According to the China Post, the 2011 military display included “71 aircraft of various types, 168 ground vehicles and 1,802 officers and soldiers” and featured Taiwan’s “biggest ever air show.”

The military display will be part of a series of events held by Taiwan’s military to mark the anniversary, including concerts, exhibitions, and special programs opening select military bases to the public. “These special events are to commemorate the bravery and daunting efforts of our troops and those who sacrificed their lives for the nation,” Luo said in January, when the programs were announced. Taiwan also plans to dedicate part of its commemorative activities to the theme of post-war “peace and cooperation between the Chinese people and the Japanese people.”

Previously, a ruling party legislator, Lin Yu-fang, had suggested holding a full-fledged military parade in front of the Presidential Office in Taipei to mark the end of the war. Taiwan’s defense ministry decided for the more modest option of a display held at a military parade ground.

Mainland China has already announced that it will hold a military parade to commemorate the anniversary. Chinese President Xi Jinping will inspect the troops. Beijing has also announced that world leaders from all the major combatants in World War II will be invited to attend; Russian President Vladimir Putin, at least, is widely expected to be there.

Taiwan, of course, will not be able to invite world leaders to attend its own military display thanks to the complex nature of cross-strait relations. But the government wants to ensure that the contributions made by Chiang Kai-shek’s Nationalist government are not forgotten. Lin, who championed the idea of a full military parade, said such a display would be important for reminding the world that the ROC shared in the triumph of World War II. Without active commemoration from Taipei, Lin cautioned, the government could lose ground in a perceived battle over whether the Nationalists or the Chinese Communist troops are remembered as having contributed more to the fight against Japan.

“China has to understand that it cannot distort the historical fact of the ROC’s predominant role in the triumph in the Second Sino-Japanese War,” CNA paraphrased a defense ministry official as saying.
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China is going to hold a military parade this year september in of the end of WWII 70 years ago. It seems that Taiwan is planning to do something similar.

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It's a real shame that Taiwan won't be holding a parade on the streets of Taipei, military or civilian, the ROC government is doing its Chinese heritage a major disservice.
 
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