ZTQ-15 and PRC Light Tanks

RichardGao

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I noticed over time that there are currently two notable versions of this tank.
One without the commander's panoramic sights but a simple periscope in its place. It also had a leaner ERA package. This was the version that was displayed to the public at the 2019 National Parade.
The other version has a noticeably beefier ERA package and possess the commander's panoramic sights.

Are both models actually put into active service together?
Yes. There's no need to divide the two into two subtypes. The two are locally known as "basic" and "reinforced" variants.
 

RichardGao

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The title should probably be changed to reflect that this is a thread for light tanks in general, because VT-5 is also being discussed here. The current title was from before the designation for either tank became known. I think "Chinese Light Tanks" would be an OK title.
What about "modern chinese light tanks"? after all old light tanks like the type 62 and obj.131/132 aren't discussed here.
 

Broccoli

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How effective is the 105mm against Indian tanks like Arjun and T-90? I’d assume those would it’s only potential tank vs tank fight enemies.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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How effective is the 105mm against Indian tanks like Arjun and T-90? I’d assume those would it’s only potential tank vs tank fight enemies.
Not very against a properly armoured MBT and I'm not sure Arjun qualifies. The ZTQ-15 is not meant to go up against an MBT, it's meant to be deployed to environments MBTs are too heavy to be deployed to so it's doubtful it would face heavy tanks.
 

Sunbud

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How effective is the 105mm against Indian tanks like Arjun and T-90? I’d assume those would it’s only potential tank vs tank fight enemies.
How effective is the 105mm against Indian tanks like Arjun and T-90? I’d assume those would it’s only potential tank vs tank fight enemies.
From penetration and armour values, the 105mm gun on the ZTQ 15 firing APFSDS should be sufficient to penetrate or mission kill t-90 in nearly all aspects perhaps except for the turret front.

The Arjun is a similar story. With thicker armour on the hull but poor armour on the turret caused by major weak spots and uneven coverage. Whilst the turret may be resistant in places, the armour as a whole would be penetrable by the ZTQ 15 and of course still susceptible to mission kill like any tank.

The differentiating factor or the ZTQ 15 is that as a light tank, it is designed to operate in mountainous terrain as well as high altitudes. Places where MBTs like the T90, Arjun and Type 99A would not be able to get to both in terms of mobility and engines be unable to operate in thin atmospheres.

Additionally in its role, the ZTQ 15 is designed to achieve greater gun elevation and depression to be suitable for a mountain role. Something that may beat out MBTs that get to mountainous terrain.

I have read the the 120mm main gun on the Arjun firing an APFSDS can only penetrate around 300mm of RHA at 2000m. This is compared to 500mm RHA at 2km from the 105mm found on the ZTQ. The penetration value from the Arjun is such that many parts of the ZTQ 15 could quite easily withstand. But again still susceptible to mission kill.
The T90 however would have a more lethal punch despite similar armour compared the the Arjun.

In such terrain it is likely that the only vehicles encountered will be APCs, IFVs and other light tanks. So a 105mm is more than sufficient.
 
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Sunbud

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The ZTQ 15 no doubt literally punches above its weight and can take on most targets bar the most armoured MBTs around.

Of course it's own armour protection isn't fully that of an MBT.
 
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How effective is the 105mm against Indian tanks like Arjun and T-90? I’d assume those would it’s only potential tank vs tank fight enemies.
then you did be mistaken, for all intends and purpose the ztq-15 is not meant to fight against other full sized mbt.
Unless it can get side shots and/or lower hull shots. A ztq is not going to fair well against them in a front on fight. But then again I did like to see a Arjun or a T-90 climbing the Himalayan slopes or negotiating small tropical islands which is the environment the ztq is supposed to function in.
A better comparison would be against the Kaplan Harimau tank which is very similar in configuration and armament.
If the ZTQ was designed from the onset to combat mbt the likes of the T-90 it did had a much larger gun like the Spurt SD.
 
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FishWings

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then you did be mistaken, for all intends and purpose the ztq-15 is not meant to fight against other full sized mbt.
Unless it can get side shots and/or lower hull shots. A ztq is not going to fair well against them in a front on fight. But then again I did like to see a Arjun or a T-90 climbing the Himalayan slopes or negotiating small tropical islands which is the environment the ztq is supposed to function in.
A better comparison would be against the Kaplan Harimau tank which is very similar in configuration and armament.
If the ZTQ was designed from the onset to combat mbt the likes of the T-90 it did had a much larger gun like the Spurt SD.

The Kaplan is way more capable in terms of firepower, protection, imaging systems, mobility, and FCS IMHO

The ZTQ is more comparable with the TAM
 
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