Yemen Crisis/Conflict & the "Decisive Storm" Coalition


H2O

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I'm amazed on these khat chewing tribesmen with minimal equipment have managed to fight off Saudi hired mercs. The good news is that the Saudi-led coalition is losing the war. Recently, they've stated that there will be no offensive on
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. This certainly would explain the rumors of mass desertions in the Saudi-led coalition ground forces. I can't remember where I read it, but there was an article of the Houthis threatening to strike into Saudi territory. AFAIK, the Houthis have stayed within their borders but things will get more interesting if this war continues. I don't see MbS lasting very long once the Houthis cross the border.
 
I'm guessing
"Decisive Storm"
(what an ironic name)
Coalition
has tactical issues, like perhaps not sending a second Company into the fray once a first Company was pinned down (assuming that first Company even moved out of the cover ...)

 
now DefenseNews:
Mattis says US still backing Saudi coalition in Yemen war as lawmakers fume
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Democratic lawmakers warned Tuesday they will work to block munition sales to Gulf allies in response to civilian casualties in the Saudi-led intervention in Yemen, even as Defense Secretary Jim Mattis defended
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Mattis’ remarks to reporters at the Pentagon on Tuesday came as a new United Nations report said all sides in the conflict may have committed war crimes. Following a strike on a school bus that killed 40 children earlier this month, opposition on Capitol Hill to military aid has deepened, with frustration the Pentagon cannot better explain its support.

“The Department of Defense can’t give you a good answer about how it is our assistance is actually making it better in terms of civilian casualties,” said Senate Foreign Relations Committee ranking member Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J. “It’s hard to explain that hitting a school bus is something we’re doing that is a better result."

Menendez said he is
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the Trump administration from a round of sales of precision-guided munitions to
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. That’s because he has been dissatisfied with the Pentagon’s response to his inquires, particularly when it comes to the U.S. military’s actions after a coalition strike, he said.

Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., and a foe of U.S. participation in the conflict, said Tuesday he is ready to introduce a joint resolution of disapproval in the Senate to reject the sale should the Trump administration advance it to the formal notification stage. (The administration has informally notified Congress, which allows lawmakers to delay the sale questions and concerns for a finite period.)

In March, Murphy offered a similar resolution of disapproval with Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, and Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., to end U.S. involvement. It failed in a bipartisan
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, 55-44. On Tuesday, Murphy and other Democrats said congressional opposition is now stronger, particularly since the bus bombing and the U.N. findings.

“I don’t know why people don’t believe their eyes,” Murphy said. “More civilian casualties, less chance of peace, humanitarian disaster getting worse. We need to cut our losses.”

For three years, the U.S. has provided munitions, aerial refueling and other logistical support to Saudi and Emirati forces fighting in the Yemeni civil war against Houthi rebels alleged to be Iranian-backed. At the Pentagon, Mattis told reporters U.S. support is “not conditional” and urged the coalition to “do everything humanly possible to avoid any innocent loss of life.”

A team of U.N.-mandated investigators said Tuesday that air attacks by the Saudi and Emirati-led coalition has caused the most direct civilian casualties in the war, and a blockade of Yemeni ports and airspace may have violated international humanitarian law. Those attacks have reportedly hit residential areas, markets, funerals, weddings, detention facilities, civilian boats and medical facilities.

The school bus bombing has also put a spotlight on U.S. weapons sales to the region. CNN reported earlier this month that the bomb that hit the bus was a 500-pound laser-guided MK 82 bomb made by Lockheed Martin. In 2016, U.S.-supplied bombs separately struck a funeral hall in Yemen that killed 155 people and a Yemeni market, killing 97.

At the Pentagon, Mattis said U.S. support is meant to bring about a U.N.-brokered peace. U.S. training has yielded successes in averting civilian casualties, he said, like the establishment of “no-fire zones” around schools and hospitals, and coalition “pilots in the air who have declined to drop [bombs] even when they have the authority.”

After the strike on the school bus, Mattis ordered a three-star general to Riyadh to voice concerns about coalition air operations to Saudi officials. Mattis said Tuesday that U.S. partners have always been receptive: “We have not seen any callous disregard by the people we’re working with.”

The coalition has improved targeting before a sortie is launched, but needs to improve “dynamic” targeting, meaning while an aircraft is in flight — as was the case in the school bus bombing, according to Mattis.

Soon after Trump took office in 2017, his administration reversed a decision by former President Barack Obama, driven by civilian deaths in the war, to suspend the sales of laser-guided bombs to Riyadh. The Senate narrowly
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that sale 53-47.

The Senate Armed Services Committee’s top Democrat, Sen. Jack Reed, said Tuesday that part of the Defense Department’s rationale for refueling coalition aircraft is that it provides more time for targeteers to make calculated decisions. But he said the Pentagon has not been entirely forthcoming with lawmakers.

“I don’t think we’ve gotten yet a very detailed analysis of what took place, of what they knew and what they should have known,” Reed said of coalition forces. “Do they have active means to measure accountability — not to us because we’re not involved in the operations directly, but we don’t want to be in a position where [we’re] involved in something that’s not being run according to the rule of law.”

SASC member Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass.,
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earlier this month, asking whether the U.S. military can track the purpose, mission and results of airstrikes in Yemen it supports. Thursday is her deadline for him to answer.

It’s unclear whether a wide array of Republicans, who tend to favor the U.S. support, share those concerns. On Tuesday, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said U.S. efforts mean to stem Iran’s expanding influence in the region and provide “better targeting to avoid hitting civilians and innocents.”

Munitions sales support that end, he said.

“In the absence of U.S. assistance and that technology, all you’re going to see is untargeted bombings and kinetic military activity that potentially harms civilians,” Rubio said. “You hate to see innocent people killed in a war zone, but I blame the Houthis for that because they’re the ones who have created this situation.”

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker, R-Tenn., has previously voiced his doubts about the strategy behind U.S. aid. In a brief hallway interview, he was not as quick to defend U.S. support for the coalition, saying only: “We have friends involved, but I’m not sure anybody’s conduct is particularly good at this time.”
 
Jun 19, 2018
Friday at 8:27 PM

and from what I figured, the Battle of Hodeida has been tactically interesting (reportedly counter-strikes to the approach road, in the south in

etc.) ... credible sources anyone?
it sure is tactically interesting, reportedly
the "Decisive Storm" Coalition
is now trying to cut out "N3" road from Hodeida into the interior of Yemen (that road shows in
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)
 

taxiya

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I'm amazed on these khat chewing tribesmen with minimal equipment have managed to fight off Saudi hired mercs. The good news is that the Saudi-led coalition is losing the war. Recently, they've stated that there will be no offensive on
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. This certainly would explain the rumors of mass desertions in the Saudi-led coalition ground forces. I can't remember where I read it, but there was an article of the Houthis threatening to strike into Saudi territory. AFAIK, the Houthis have stayed within their borders but things will get more interesting if this war continues. I don't see MbS lasting very long once the Houthis cross the border.
Weapons were never the decisive factor of outcome of a war. It is always the man decides. SA has never fought a modern war while the Yemenis did for a long time. Not so long ago, the Ethiopians on camel back beat the Italians in the tank and aircraft during the beginning of WWII, only to be defeated when Germany stepped in. It is always about discipline, morale, planning and experience.
 

gelgoog

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Sun Tzu claimed there are several factors to gain victory. Having a just cause is one of those which he considered to be paramount. The Saudis do not have just cause in invading Yemen and everyone knows about this. The Houtis also have the advantage of being on their home ground and knowing the terrain better. The Houtis are trapped in Yemen and have nowhere else to go. They can do nothing else but fight. Several wars have been fought in Yemen in the past and the mountain terrain in it always made invasions difficult. After their quick coup in Bahrain I guess the Saudis thought Yemen was going to be a walk in the park. But anyone with any inkling of the history of that region would know better. Same deal with Iran. Several US officials keep trumpeting about a war in Iran. But they can't even stabilize Iraq from ISIL. If they invaded Iran, it would make Afghanistan look like a cakewalk. Just look at the place in Google Earth. It's all mountains and shit unlike Iraq.
 

B.I.B.

Senior Member
S Same deal with Iran. Several US officials keep trumpeting about a war in Iran. But they can't even stabilize Iraq from ISIL. If they invaded Iran, it would make Afghanistan look like a cakewalk. Just look at the place in Google Earth. It's all mountains and shit unlike Iraq.
It did not stop Alexander.
 

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