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MadMax

Junior Member
not very manuverable? tell that to the enemy pilots during the falklans the harrier can fly circles around most other planes cause it can slow down very quick and change direction very fast
 

MadMax

Junior Member
can a J 7 slow down to a 150mph then completly change direction i dont think so the tvc nozles can be used to turn too not just hover
 

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
i did not say a j-7 can beat a harrier, i just said it had beter aero dynamic charictaristics.

just cause a harrier can turn in mid air in slow spped is not manuverable. thats like a helicopter. a missle will easily down it at sliow speed.
 

MadMax

Junior Member
the Harrier GR Mk2 shot down 22 argentine mirageIII fighters while not having a singal combat loss and they wernt even designed for air to air combat
the newer FA Mk2 is much improved in A to A now that it has the Blue vixon radar and AIM 120 amraam
and no Harrier is supersonic there was a concept drawing in the mid 60's but it was scraped
the McDonnell Douglas/British Aerospace Harrier II aka AV8 Harrier is the best ground attack version so far but the FA Mk2 sea Harrier is the best A to A version
 
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Gollevainen

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the Harrier GR Mk2 shot down 22 argentine mirageIII fighters while not having a singal combat loss and they wernt even designed for air to air combat
the newer FA Mk2 is much improved in A to A now that it has the Blue fox radar and AIM 120 amraam
...Those harriers doing the shootdowns where Sea harriers whit blue Vixen radars, not the GR.2...tough no amraams where then availaple...only sidewinders...
 

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
MadMax said:
the Harrier GR Mk2 shot down 22 argentine mirageIII fighters while not having a singal combat loss and they wernt even designed for air to air combat
the newer FA Mk2 is much improved in A to A now that it has the Blue vixon radar and AIM 120 amraam
and no Harrier is supersonic there was a concept drawing in the mid 60's but it was scraped
the McDonnell Douglas/British Aerospace Harrier II aka AV8 Harrier is the best ground attack version so far but the FA Mk2 sea Harrier is the best A to A version

wellm the argentinaian pilots wern't very well trained for a2a, just to fire exocets.
 

Knarfo

New Member
Gollevainen said:
...Those harriers doing the shootdowns where Sea harriers whit blue Vixen radars, not the GR.2...tough no amraams where then availaple...only sidewinders...
The Sea Harriers used by the FAA during the Falklands war were equipped with the Blue fox radar and they were armed with AIM9L which was the newest available sidewinder at that time. The Blue vixen is the one used in the FA MK2. The RAF harriers were GR 3.
 
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