PiSigma
"the engineer"
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Where do the Members of SDF stand on the issue of the War in the Ukraine?
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plawolf
Lieutenant General
Once again and please don't misunderstand me, as this is not intended to be blackmail, but I don't understand this arbitrary approach, against all the rules!??
For years we have fared more than well with the fact that no political issues were tolerated and even if the situation here is new and unique, since the world has not been in such danger for decades, I am convinced that our forum had its quality next to the professional quality of its members, above all through the more polite and respectful interaction with each other, since certain rules were strictly observed and this includes the fact that certain things were a "no go" and that political hate speech and propaganda were not allowed.
We are a forum for China's military" ... this is our core business!
The fact that a moderator, contrary to all these rules, is doing exactly that on his own authority, namely by dividing into black and white, pro-Russian or pro-Ukraine - aka Russia or NATO, which is naive, at best only part of the story - and at the same time cheering by openly this split, allowing, even supporting, slander, insults, the use of propaganda symbols etc., is a point on to which I can't say, "ok, then I'll ignore that and leave it to serial numbers and aircraft".
Quite simply and certainly with a very heavy heart, then I'm out.
For years we have fared more than well with the fact that no political issues were tolerated and even if the situation here is new and unique, since the world has not been in such danger for decades, I am convinced that our forum had its quality next to the professional quality of its members, above all through the more polite and respectful interaction with each other, since certain rules were strictly observed and this includes the fact that certain things were a "no go" and that political hate speech and propaganda were not allowed.
We are a forum for China's military" ... this is our core business!
The fact that a moderator, contrary to all these rules, is doing exactly that on his own authority, namely by dividing into black and white, pro-Russian or pro-Ukraine - aka Russia or NATO, which is naive, at best only part of the story - and at the same time cheering by openly this split, allowing, even supporting, slander, insults, the use of propaganda symbols etc., is a point on to which I can't say, "ok, then I'll ignore that and leave it to serial numbers and aircraft".
Quite simply and certainly with a very heavy heart, then I'm out.
Intrepid
Major
I have not voted pro Ukraine, I stand with Ukraine. That is not the same. I have voted against war!
Even more a reason why I am strictly against this thread, such post and most of all THIS particular action. It's spreading exactly what we don't want, it's initiating additional discussion, hate, flame-bait and anger.
I really don't understand why this poll, why only black & white options and why a moderator did this for what reason!
That's exactly as if you would ask the kids at school if they no longer want to be tested! ... we as the moderators have a responsibility and I'm more than convinced that several of those who have spoken "pro" your side are mostly here for this topic and rarely post on PLA-military related stuff. On the other side including myself, several who are pro-Ukraine refused to vote not since they are pro-NATO, or pro-Nazi - a most embarrassing and insulting claim - but since they are pro-accepted borders and clearly against-war!
This is quite ironic actually.
West has been imposing "values of democracy"...which exactly functions like asking the kids in school if they no longer want to be tested.
And no, several of those who have spoken "pro" Russia aren't unaware of PLA. In fact both of those points are of same origin. People who are Pro China, Pro Russia are anti-West, by default have a great interest in PLA & Russian military.
Hell a good number of them are interested in North Korean & Iranian military activity for exactly same reason.
Pro Westerns should have been "anti-war" for last 5 centuries.
You are either with us, or you are against us. Isn't that the thing?
Honestly, this simple black & white, with or against us is plain naive and only for the simple minded.