USN fearful of PLAN subs

That kinda means if chinese continue their air force buildup it's possible additional raptors can be purchased.

There is no concrete proof that the Yuan will have AIP capability.

IDonT said:

There is no concrete proof that the Yuan will have AIP capability.

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there is no concret proof that WZ-10 project exists other than the speculation, but I'm sure with all the Chinese sources that says so, it does exist.

Same with Yuan, most Chinese sources say that it does have AIP.

i would trust the chinese sources. it's not their nature to lie about these things.

Brother of Snake said:

Amen brother

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Was that concerning my spiel about the US cutting weapon systems only when they're not needed?

MIGleader said:

i would trust the chinese sources. it's not their nature to lie about these things.

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Do not say such a thing, comrade. That is almost as conceited as the Americans (including American-Born-Chinese) saying American stuff are superior and more high-tech because it is in their nature to make better things than the rest of the world.

all their saying is that some songs have been experimentally fitted with aip. since everyone already knows china has aip. not much to brag about.

wz-10, its not much to say you have a few helicopter prototypes either.

most abc's i know love china more than US.

you can choose to believe what you want to believe, but if there are enough analysis saying the same, I would tend to believe that it's most likely that way. Where do you think all the publications like JDW and Kanwa get their sources from? China, there we go.

traitor!!! i'd yell at you, but thats off topic.

so, subs do seem like the perfect solution for china. they are cheaper than most surface combatants. soon they will have so many of them. plus they are really hard to detect, and pack a punch.

soon china will have 12 song, 12 kilo, 4 yuan, 5 han, one xia, 2 type 93, and one type 94. add in all the mings and romeos that can act as sound decoys of distraction.

on the surface, use dozens of the new FAC combined with a few larger warships like the 52's and sovs.

in the sky, send in j-5 drones as decoys, as the main force use alot mkks and backfire bombers

this will assymetrical fleet will destroy any US cvbg.

no, there is a big speculation on whether or not China should get backfires. Personally, I'd try to see if China can get the su-34/32FN, but I'm not sure the Russians are willing to sell that. So, the question will be how many/if any backfires/bears we should get?

they are for different roles I think:
the bear can carry more weapons and bombs
the backfire is faster