US Strike Group ordered to Gulf

BLUEJACKET

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Here is some background of what may happen in '07-
The mission of Carrier Task Force (CTF) is similar to that of a carrier strike group, but much larger in scale and scope: to deter and dissuade aggression, keep sea-lanes open for commerce, and conduct maritime security operations. The carrier task force is part of "training like we fight". As the Navy looks at different hot spots overseas, the best response to many scenarios requires a multi-carrier task force. The purpose of training as a CTF during JTFEX is to provide warfare commanders with the greatest capability and staying power for fighting the global war on terrorism with a dual-carrier, combat-ready, maritime force.
Air power “persistence” is essential. During normal cyclic flight operations, a pilot spends a significant amount of time transiting to and from target areas. With the enhanced capabilities the CTF provides, by alternating air plan flight cycles, the CTF is able to maintain a nearly constant air presence over the targeted areas. It is difficult for one CVW to conduct flight operations for much more than about 12 hours before having to stop. However, with the combined striking power of two CVWs, the CTF is able to conduct air operations over a continuous 24-hour cycle. During the early days of Operation Enduring Freedom, USS Enterprise (CVN 65) was operating with USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) off the coast of Afghanistan. When the order to launch air strikes arrived, together, both CVWs flew 24-hours a day. ..
Carrier Task Force Background
The term Carrier Task Force has previously been applied in several other ways. It has been used to refer to a group of ships centered on a single aircraft carrier, a group more properly designated a a Carrier Battle Group [BATRU] or more recently a Carrier Strike Group [CSG].
In June 2006 USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76), USS Kitty Hawk (CV 63), and USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) cruised side-by-side in the Western Pacific Ocean as part of a formation of 15 ships comprised of the three aircraft carriers and their respective carrier strike groups. The Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group is currently participating in Valiant Shield 2006, a major military exercise off the coast of Guam involving 28 Naval vessels including three carrier strike groups. Approximately 290 aircraft and more than 20,000 service members from the Navy, Army, Air Force, Marine Corps and U.S. Coast Guard are taking part in the exercise. The term "Carrier Task Force" was not invoked in this context.
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Now at the time, Iran was casually engaging the Soviet Union's MiG-25 reconnaissance aircraft in small skirmishes near the Caspian Sea. Our decision to sell our technology to Iran was a nice way for us to shaft the Soviets without actually getting our hands dirty. Unfortunately for us (and much to the chagrin of the US intelligence community, I imagine), the Iranian Revolution occurred shortly after the sale. Overnight, Iran went from being our buddy to being our enemy, and we had just sent them some of our most coveted military technology. We managed to hold back 1 of the 80 aircraft, and 430 of the missiles, but still... it wasn't long before the Soviet Union had obtained at least one Phoenix and one Tomcat from Iran. Their MiG-31 fighters and AA-9 missiles bear a striking resemblence.
Anyway, the sale of the F-14 and AIM-54 to Iran ended up being a huge mistake, but it did result in the only real combat use of the Phoenix—against Iraq as part of the drawn-out Iran-Iraq war. Whereas the US Navy has used the misssile twice, both times unsuccessfully, the Iranian Air Force has fired the Phoenix in combat approximately 80 times with an estimated success rate of 80%.
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The rhetoric was already loud and clear earlier this year- now it's just "quiet before the storm"!

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BLUEJACKET

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Re: Breaking news!

Breaking news!
Aircraft Carrier Headed to Persian Gulf
Thursday, January 4, 2007

(01-04) 07:31 PST WASHINGTON, (AP) --

The aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis is scheduled to leave the United States this month for the Persian Gulf region in a Naval buildup aimed partly as a warning to Iran.
Officials decided to send the Stennis strike group on top of a carrier group already in the region on a request late last year from the U.S. Central Command, the military unit in charge of activities there as well as the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, a senior Pentagon official said Thursday. He spoke on condition of anonymity because the Defense Department perfers not to publicly announce upcoming ship movements for security reasons.
Pentagon officials said last month that the extra ships would serve as a show of force to Iran, at odds with the United States over its nuclear program and alleged support of violence in Iraq. They said the ships also would be available to help in the ongoing wars in Afghanistan and Iraq — and possibly nearby in Indian Ocean waters off the coast of Somalia, a lawless nation that authorities say has been a haven for Islamic radicals.
The aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower left its Norfolk, Va., port in September and is already in the gulf region. The Stennis is homeported in Bremerton, Wash.

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So, the aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis is leaving early after all! A "show of force" could escalate to the use of force, as far as I'm concerned!
 

Violet Oboe

Junior Member
Indeed some developments in Washington are very menacing!

1. Ambassador in Baghdad (i.e. Viceroy) Khalilzad
is obviously being sacked. This is a grave mistake since he is an outstanding middle east expert fluent in arabic and persian who had urged Rice and Bush jr. to talk with Tehran to deescalate tensions in the region and pave the way for a possible disengagement from Iraq and Afghanistan for the US while securing her essential interests.

2. General Abizaid will be gone in March as CENTCOM chief. Although Abizaid had a tough time in Baghdad battling the insurgency he did not demand more troops because he did know that this would not solve any problems and would only pour more gasoline into the already raging fire. Of course he also did not want any escalation with Iran and consequently he is removed from his post now. The name of his successor will be probably quite revealing since I would bet that Bush jr. brings a guy similar to ´attack dog´ Tommy Franks in place! (P.S. Successor will be Admiral William Fallon. An Admiral as CENTCOM chief, what a message to Tehran!)

3. DNI John Negroponte is removed from his position and receives the consolation prize of vice secratary of state. Apart from the hardships of serving under Condi Rice (hardly entertaining for a 68 year old with an independent analytic mind!) this movement indicates that the White House was certainly not satisfied by Negropontes steadfast estimate that Iran is at least 5 or even 10 years away from a nuclear weapons capability. Just watch how fast that will change (probably to ´about 1-2 years´) under new DNI John Michael McConnell (former NSA chief and retired USAF general) who will be decidedly more receptive to his masters voice in the White House!

Bush and Cheney are bringing their new ´guns´in position and grave signs are pointing to war with Iran in 07 but the possibility remains that all this blister and bluster is only a psyop designed to intimidate Iran. Unfourtunately this will work only if Tehran can be bullied to cave in but if the Iranians are calling the bluff the whole region will be set ablaze and the course of history inevitably changed.

(Iraq may be ´repaired´with enourmous efforts but after this kind of terrible conflagration everything will have changed for the worst at least in the middle east and the wider islamic world.)
 
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bd popeye

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Oh boy! After reading all these post I'm shaking in my boots! ...Not!

So, the aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis is leaving early after all! A "show of force" could escalate to the use of force, as far as I'm concerned!

The USN has announced that CVN-74 is not deploying early.

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Excerpt from the article;
SAN DIEGO — The 7,500 Navy officers, sailors and Marines of the aircraft carrier John C. Stennis and its strike group got a holiday present when word came down that they won’t deploy early, as some reports have claimed.

“We are going to depart on our scheduled deployment date,” Lt. John Perkins, Stennis’ public affairs officer, said Thursday from the ship, which remains at its home port in Bremerton, Wash.

It’s “great news that we’re going as scheduled,” Perkins added.

A Navy spokesman confirmed the strike group’s status. “They’re not moving any time frame,” Lt. Trey Brown III, a spokesman at the Pentagon, said Thursday.

The military & other moves Pres Bush are making are to put people in charge that agree with his flawed Iraq policy & foriegn policy.
 

Violet Oboe

Junior Member
The new CENTCOM chief will be Admiral William Fallon. How usual or unusual is this? Is he the the first navy officer as the head of CENTCOM?

This is probably intended to send a strong message to Tehran since amphibious and blockade operations will certainly play a decisive role in any kind of war scenario against Iran.

Does someone (BD popeye perhaps?!) know how Fallon thinks about Iran (may be he was stationed in the Gulf in 1987/88 during Operation Earnest Will/Praying Mantis) and how he thinks is the best way to deal with the TACTIC AND STRATEGIC problems? (e.g. Strait of Hormuz)
 

Finn McCool

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I looked at a short profile of Adm. Fallon I found online and it said that he was a fighter pilot in Vietnam, callsign Fox which is still his nickname, and was involved in operations in Bosnia, he used to be in charge of PACOM and he apparently has not had any experience with the Iranians. As I said he was a fighter pilot not a sailor to begin with so that may affect how he acts. He might have more of a grasp of ground operations.
 

bd popeye

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The new CENTCOM chief will be Admiral William Fallon. How usual or unusual is this? Is he the the first navy officer as the head of CENTCOM?

This is probably intended to send a strong message to Tehran since amphibious and blockade operations will certainly play a decisive role in any kind of war scenario against Iran.

Does someone (BD popeye perhaps?!) know how Fallon thinks about Iran (may be he was stationed in the Gulf in 1987/88 during Operation Earnest Will/Praying Mantis) and how he thinks is the best way to deal with the TACTIC AND STRATEGIC problems? (e.g. Strait of Hormuz)

Considering most of the forces in CENTCOM are US Army and Air Force I think it is a strange move. But of course I'm no expert and certainly can't read Pres. Bush mind.

Violet Oboe may be correct in thinking this particular change is meant to be a signal or warning to Iran.

ADM Fallon was with CENTCOM. But I am not sure on the years. But his bio says "He has served as Deputy Director for Operations, Joint Task Force, Southwest Asia". The years are not given.

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ADM Fallon was building an understanding with the PRC. He has on two accounts(I think) visited the PLA forces in China. He was a strong suppourter of good reations with China.

Perhaps this article can give us a better understanding on whu ADM Fallon was chosen to head CENTCOM

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Admiral picked to lead Middle East war efforts

Adm. William J. “Fox” Fallon

By JACK DORSEY AND DALE EISMAN, The Virginian-Pilot
© January 6, 2007

NORFOLK — President Bush’s nomination Friday of Adm. William J. “Fox” Fallon, a former Oceana naval aviator and Norfolk-based fleet commander, to head Central Command will bring “superb experience” and a “fresh look” to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to retired top officers.

If the Senate confirms his appointment , it will be the first time a naval officer heads the command, which traditionally has been le d by a Marine or Army general.

The appointment means “the administration is recognizing the combatant commander needed to be focused broadly … on advancing our relationships with the nations and partners in the region ,” said Stephen R. Pietropaoli, a retired rear admiral who now is national executive director of the Navy League of the United States.

For the past two years, Fallon has commanded a 300,000-member joint service force that is in diplomatic discussions with China and North Korea and had persuaded Japan to accept a nuclear aircraft carrier in that country for the first time.

Early in his career, he was an aviator in RA-5C Vigilante electronic reconnaissance jets in Vietnam and switched to the A-6 Intruder as a bombardier and navigator, flying out of Oceana Naval Air Station in Virginia Beach.

The now-four-star admiral commanded Attack Squadron 65 and Medium Attack Wing One, both at Oceana, and Carrier Air Wing Eight aboard the carrier Theodore Roosevelt during Operation Desert Storm in 1991.

He then served as commander of the 2nd Fleet in Norfolk from 1997 to 2000 and earned a master’s degree in international studies from Old Dominion University.

The 33-year Navy veteran headed the Atlantic Fleet and Fleet Forces Command in Norfolk from October 2003 to February 2005, when he assumed his present command in Hawaii.

“The bottom line is they wanted somebody with experience, instead of moving up a three-star” to command, said retired Adm. Robert J. Natter, who succeeded Fallon in Norfolk as commander of the Atlantic Fleet and Fleet Forces Command.

Natter, reached Friday by telephone in Florida, said Fallon brings “a different, fresh look” to the command. “He is well-respected.”

Naval historian Norman Polmar said Fallon is “the right guy” for his new duties at Central Command and has demonstrated “a broad understanding of political-military matters.”

Most admirals are more focused on Navy concerns, he added.

Retired Marine Corps Maj. Gen. Tom Wilkerson, now chief executive of the U.S. Naval Institute, said the most eye-opening thing about Fallon’s appointment is the way he has jumped from Atlantic to Pacific and now to Central Command.

He could not recall a previous top-level commander who had three successive assignments in three different theat ers.

Fallon “is a known commodity at a time when steadiness and dependability is the necessary quality,” Wilkerson said.

Fallon, 62, the son of a mailman from Merchantville, N.J., the oldest of nine children and a 1967 graduate of Villanova University, has been picked by the Bush administration to succeed Gen. John Abizaid as the top commander in the Middle East.

Abizaid has had the command since 2003 and has asked to retire.

Fallon “is a guy who has terrific operational credentials,” said Pietropaoli, who continues to work closely with Fallon on issues involving maritime matters in the Pacific region.

Pietropaoli said the key to success includes being able to work “in the political, diplomatic are na, which Adm. Fallon has done with superb experience in the Pacific.”

Fallon “is going to have very capable ground commanders in Iraq, in Afghanistan and in the Horn of Africa” to direct the fighting, Pietropaoli said.

As far as having a naval officer leading Army and Marine ground forces, both Pietropaoli and Natter said there should be no concern.

“They’ll get over it and follow orders like everyone else,” Natter said.

One of the five geographically defined unified commands, Central Command is responsible for planning and conducting U.S. military activity in a region encompassing 43 countries in northeastern Africa, Southwest and Central Asia, and the island nation of Seychelles, according to a Pentagon news release.

It was established in 1983 to cover the “central” area of the globe, between the European and Pacific commands.

B as ed at MacDill Air Force Base, near Tampa, Fla., the command maintains offices overseas as well.

Although Fallon will be the first admiral to head Central Command, there is ample precedent for Bush’s decision to put a naval officer in overall command of a ground war, Polmar said.

He recalled that Adm. John S. McCain Jr., father of U.S. Sen. John McCain, headed the U.S. Pacific Command in the midst of the Vietnam War, overseeing more than 600,000 troops.

Before that, as c ommander in chief in the Pacific in World War II, Adm. Chester Nimitz led Army and Marine forces that fought their way across Pacific islands claimed by the Japanese. The ground forces under Nimitz were larger than those commanded by Army Gen. Douglas MacArthur, Polmar said.
 
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BLUEJACKET

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"Forward, from the sea!" In addition to what the article said, I think the decision was made to increase the Navy's role in CENTCOM (with Adm. Fallon in charge) AOR since the Army will have to reduce its presence there starting this year, even if (or because) Iran is going to be attacked!
 
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bd popeye

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BLUEJACKET and other I find this very intresting...Two east coast CVN's air wings conducting ops ashore in prepration for deployment at the same time? Could be routine..but ya' never know. And the Stennis ready to go any day now..humm???

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Flight training to increase at Oceana, Fentress
The Virginian-Pilot
© January 5, 2007 | Last updated 9:36 PM Jan. 4

Flight operations at Oceana Naval Air Station in Virginia Beach and at the Naval Auxiliary Landing Field at Fentress in Chesapeake will increase considerably beginning Monday and lasting through Jan. 14, the Navy said.

Two carrier air wings, consisting of 10 Oceana-based squadrons and four Norfolk-based squadrons, are preparing for deployment aboard their respective aircraft carriers.

The increase will be both day and night flight operations and will focus primarily on Field Carrier Landing Practice at both bases, the Navy said in a release.
 

BLUEJACKET

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To me it's not routine- it means 2 carriers will be heading East soon, in addition to CVN-74 heading West from San Diego! That will make 4 flattops (not counting
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) in the CENTCOM AOR, unless more are sent there as well!
as of January 8, 2007 :
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) - Indian Ocean
Boxer Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG):
USS Boxer (LHD 4) - Persian Gulf
USS Dubuque (LPD 8) - Persian Gulf
USS Comstock (LSD 45) - North Arabian Sea
Amphibious Warfare Ships:
USS Ashland (LSD 48) - Indian Ocean
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