US Navy DDG 1000 Zumwalt Class

kwaigonegin

Colonel
Let's not forget the scraplets!



How about 12-14? one for each CSG(Carrier Strike Group) and 3-6 standing by or cruising as an SAG..Surface Action Group.

Honestly at first I did not like this ship. But the more I learn about her.. I just love it!.

Humm a Zumwalt class SAG could be;
1 Zumwalt class DDG
1 Ticonderoga class CG
4 Arliegh Burke Class DDGs
1 Virginia/Los Angeles class SSN..

Unbeatable.

dang!.. that SAG alone would carry enough conventional firepower to take out the navies and air forces of most countries on earth. A few dozen land bases would be turned to ashes as well.
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Honestly at first I did not like this ship. But the more I learn about her.. I just love it!.

Humm a Zumwalt class SAG could be;
1 Zumwalt class DDG
1 Ticonderoga class CG
4 Arliegh Burke Class DDGs
1 Virginia/Los Angeles class SSN..

Unbeatable.
Absolutely, and if they needed some extra ASW and mine warfare to do their job, they could throw in a couple of LCS for good measure.

But the group you mentioned would be simply awesome, and tough to defeat by any other Task Force of any of today's other navies on the high seas.
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
DDG-1001 Ultra Unit rolls out as DDG-1000 perpares for launch

Even as DDG-1000 USS Zumwalt sits preparing for launch next month (July 2013), the large Ultra Unit for DDG-1001 Michael Monsoor is rolled out.

Here's a video and a pic:


[video=youtube;UsOn9F536Iw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsOn9F536Iw[/video]

And a picture of the two side by side as the Ultra Unit for DDG-1001 passes the almost complete DDG-1000.


ddg1001.jpg


The US Naval Shipbuilding industry remains an awesome sight to behold when it is in full swing. At the same time these two large DDGs are being built at Bath Iron Works, two Burke DDGs are also building there, with two more under construction at the other Burke yard. In addition, down at Ingalls, the USS Gerald Ford, CVN-78 is preparing for launch, and down on the Gulf Coast, the 2nd America Class is building while another San Antonio Class builds at the same time...and new LCS vessels are building in both of two yards while all of that is going on.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Well in a way with the cancellation of the Zumwalts has given new life to the Arleigh Burke DDG programme

21 Flight I DDG
7 Flight II DDG
34 Flight IIA

This covers units up to DDG-112, with restart of construction until DDG-122 means a further 10 units until 2016

That's 72 Units from 1989 to 2016 thats 27 years or 2.667 units a year

If the production continues till 2030 they will add 37 Arleigh Burkes to the tally, a incredible 41 year production run pumping out 109 units, WOW!!!!

Over 1 million tons of state of the art warship construction
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Well in a way with the cancellation of the Zumwalts has given new life to the Arleigh Burke DDG programme

21 Flight I DDG
7 Flight II DDG
34 Flight IIA

This covers units up to DDG-112, with restart of construction until DDG-122 means a further 10 units until 2016

That's 72 Units from 1989 to 2016 thats 27 years or 2.667 units a year

If the production continues till 2030 they will add 37 Arleigh Burkes to the tally, a incredible 41 year production run pumping out 109 units, WOW!!!!
Starting in the early 2020s the production will turn over to the Block III Burke, which will be larger and more powerful and will begin replacing the Ticonderoga Class cruisers. The Block III will be more akin to the Korean Se Jong KDX-III class and weigh in at over 10,000 tons.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
Well in a way with the cancellation of the Zumwalts has given new life to the Arleigh Burke DDG programme

21 Flight I DDG
7 Flight II DDG
34 Flight IIA

This covers units up to DDG-112, with restart of construction until DDG-122 means a further 10 units until 2016

That's 72 Units from 1989 to 2016 thats 27 years or 2.667 units a year

If the production continues till 2030 they will add 37 Arleigh Burkes to the tally, a incredible 41 year production run pumping out 109 units, WOW!!!!

Over 1 million tons of state of the art warship construction

that would be amazing!!.. I personally can't think of any class of ship of the top with a production run of over 100 vessels. Probably have to go back to the 17 or 18th century for that.
I don't think even in WWII there are that numerous capital ships. You have to go down to like river boats or cutters to have that many for a single class.
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
that would be amazing!!.. I personally can't think of any class of ship of the top with a production run of over 100 vessels. Probably have to go back to the 17 or 18th century for that.
I don't think even in WWII there are that numerous capital ships. You have to go down to like river boats or cutters to have that many for a single class.
Actually, all the following destroyer classes all had runs in excess of the Burkes, three of them well over 100 vessels:

World War I Destroyers:
111 Wickes Class Built 1917-1921
156 Clemson Class Built 1918-1922

World War II Destroyers:
175 Fletcher Class Built 1941-1944
098 Gearing Class Built 1944-1952

The Fletcher construction was amazing, all 175 of them built in three years. Of course during full mobilization for war, there were many yards building them. Of note: The U.S.S. John Rodgers, DD 574, was commissioned in February 1943 and was with the US Navy until 1968, then loaned to Mexico, and later transferred to Mexico where she continued to serve until July 2001...the last of the Fletcher class in active service. She served for 58 1/2 years!

To top that, 10 of the Gearing class were ultimately transferred to Tawain which took them through a number of upgrades (in addition to the FRAM and FRAM II upgrades they got while in US Navy service) and several served until 2006. The latest was commissioned in 1947, and so served a total of 59 years. In the end, in Taiwan (ROCN) service their upgrade gave them the following weapons and sensors to operate them:

• 04 - Hsiung Feng II SSM
• 10 - SM-1MR SAM
• 01 - 8-cell ASROC
• 01 - 76 mm gun
• 02 - 40mm/70 AA
• 01 - 20mm Phalanx CIWS
• 02 - triple 12.75 inch torpedo tubes

They were well armed into the mid-2000s for modern warfare, particularly for old World War II designs.
 
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kwaigonegin

Colonel
Actually, all the following destroyer classes all had runs in excess of the Burkes, three of them well over 100 vessels:

World War I Destroyers:
111 Wickes Class Built 1917-1921
156 Clemson Class Built 1918-1922

World War II Destroyers:
175 Fletcher Class Built 1941-1944
098 Gearing Class Built 1944-1952

The Fletcher construction was amazing, all 175 of them built in three years. Of course during full mobilization for war, there were many yards building them. Of note: The U.S.S. John Rodgers, DD 574, was commissioned in February 1943 and was with the US Navy until 1968, then loaned to Mexico, and later transferred to Mexico where she continued to serve until July 2001...the last of the Fletcher class in active service. She served for 58 1/2 years!

oh yeah! forgot about the fletcher! thanks for keeping me honest!
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Well I can think of one ship that has spent many decades at sea, USS Safeguard ARS-25

Laid down in 1943 and commissioned in 1944 it served USN until 1987 when it was handed over to the Turkish navy where today it is on active duty, when it stands down when a newly indigenous Turkish built salvage ship replaces it sometime after 2016 it will have served a astounding 72 years!!

The guys who built it would never have known where and how long the ship would serve!

USS Safegaurd still carrys out missions just few months back it was used to recuse pilots of a downed aircraft
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
The Fletcher construction was amazing, all 175 of them built in three years. Of course during full mobilization for war, there were many yards building them. Of note: The U.S.S. John Rodgers, DD 574, was commissioned in February 1943 and was with the US Navy until 1968, then loaned to Mexico, and later transferred to Mexico where she continued to serve until July 2001...the last of the Fletcher class in active service. She served for 58 1/2 years!

To top that, 10 of the Gearing class were ultimately transferred to Tawain which took them through a number of upgrades (in addition to the FRAM and FRAM II upgrades they got while in US Navy service) and several served until 2006. The latest was commissioned in 1947, and so served a total of 59 years. In the end, in Taiwan (ROCN) service their upgrade gave them the following weapons and sensors to operate them:


They were well armed into the mid-2000s for modern warfare, particularly for old World War II designs.

Yeah I think it all comes down to design concept, sometimes you get a design that just cuts far above its weight, it comes from years of experience and knowledge, in recent times Arleigh Burke is one of them, the balance, speed and firepower this DDG provides has been proven to be very successful, so much so that they havnt looked back and just kept building these ships with modifications and will do so for decades to come, the overall balance of the ship in any sea states is one of it's strong points, which is why maybe why Japan and South Korea picked these designs due to the stormy seas that surround them, a Arleigh Burke can routinely charge through rough seas at 30+ knots where other DDG would struggle, it can also keep with a full pace Nimitz Class again in tough conditions

A design which can be continually upgraded and meet the need of a modern and future navys, there might come a time when USN has access to over 100 of these units, if China keeps building say 2-3 per year they will have around 40 DDG and CG by 2030 or around 40% of the USN total maybe 50% at a push

Zumwalt is a good ship but its cut in numbers has made way for its younger brother, Arleigh Burke will see many years of service and production because of it, not to mention the overhaul, repair and upgrade contracts that will be worth millions for shipyards to maintain for a 100 ship destroyer fleet
 
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