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Jura, only the SSC and any up armed LCS will be called frigates. Current LCS, and future LCS will remain LCS unless and until they receive up armaments.

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WASHINGTON, Jan 15 (Reuters) – U.S. Navy Secretary Ray Mabus on Thursday said the Navy would rename the modified Littoral Combat Ships it plans to build in coming years as “frigates,” given their enhanced capabilities.

“One of the requirements of the Small Surface Combatant Task Force was to have a ship with frigate-like capabilities. Well, if it’s like a frigate, why don’t we call it a frigate?” Mabus told the annual conference of the Surface Navy Association.

Mabus said the changed designation would apply primarily to the next 20 ships to be built, but 32 earlier Littoral Combat Ships (LCS) that have either been built or ordered would also be reclassified if and when they are retrofitted with additional weapons.
 

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Very neat story about a US Air Force hero, killed by an IED in Afghanistan in late 2013, whose widow (also in the Air Force) christens a new US Navy vessel, in his name. The MV Captain David Lyon. It is the newest large pre-positioning vessel in the Military Sealift Command inventory.

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SOUTHPORT, N.C. (AFNS) -- (Editor's note: Capt. David Lyon, a logistics officer from Peterson Air Force Base, Colorado, was killed in Afghanistan, Dec. 27, 2013. Air Force officials honored Lyon by naming the service’s newest pre-positioning vessel after him. Secretary of the Air Force Deborah Lee James and Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus conducted the official naming ceremony of Motor Vessel Capt. David I. Lyon Jan. 14, at the Pentagon. The following article recounts the christening of the vessel Aug. 11, 2014, in Southport, North Carolina.)

A single-lane road snakes its way through the knot of North Carolina pines that guards the shoreline at the Military Ocean Terminal Sunny Point. It runs parallel to a bundle of railroad tracks whose tributaries occasionally splice across the road and curve out of view. Lined along the tracks are dozens of cars laden with containers marked as property of the U.S. government and destined for faraway places. Past the waiting cars, the road arcs gently to the right as the closeness of the trees recedes and gives way to the wide-open expanse of the Cape Fear River surrounding the central pier. A large container ship looms suddenly ahead, riding high and still on the water for lack of cargo and displaying a freshly-painted name on her bow.

“David was very determined as a boy,” Jeannie Lyon said. It is the morning of Aug. 11, 2014, the day she would see the ship that bears her son’s name for the first time. “If he got it in his mind to do something, there was no way he wasn’t going to do it.”

Her son, Capt. David I. Lyon, was killed on Dec. 27, 2013, when a vehicle borne improvised explosive device struck his convoy in Afghanistan.

A boy who stayed late after football and basketball games to mop the locker room floor, David grew into a man who fulfilled his dream of graduating from the U.S. Air Force Academy.

He would later go on to personify servant leadership as an Air Force captain and logistics readiness officer.

Mrs. Lyon felt exhilarated on May 28, 2008, as she watched her son collect his diploma and walk across the stage to “high-five” former President George W. Bush. She confided what the president told David while shaking his hand. “He said to him, ‘I want you to go home. I want you to be a leader, and I want you to make a difference in this world,’” she said.

David took those words to heart and strove to meet that challenge every day. “He was a true patriot,” said Robert Lyon, David’s father. “He loved his country.”

While he made a difference to many, David had the most lasting and profound impact on his wife of five years and fellow Academy graduate, Capt. Dana Lyon. “He was the best thing to ever happen to my world,” she said.

Although they were recruited by the Academy to play different sports, both eventually found their way to the track and field team, and to each other. “He was a strong leader and a godly man,” Dana said. “He took care of my heart.”

Seven months after her husband’s death, Dana is still struggling to pick up the pieces. “It’s difficult to take on something by yourself when you’ve been doing it together for a while,” she said.

In October 2012, David volunteered for a deployment to Afghanistan as an air advisor. “He wanted to get in the fight,” Dana said. “Not that he was looking for a fight, but that he wanted to serve, to do the mission.”

At the time, Dana had jokingly threatened to volunteer as well until orders came down for her own deployment. They were both serving in Afghanistan at the time of his death; their last day together was Christmas Day at Bagram Airfield, Afghanistan.

“Neither one of us held the other back from what we were trying to achieve,” she said. “I think that if Dave had to do it over again, he’d do it again in a heartbeat because he knew what he was doing was making a difference.”

As Dana reflected on David’s latest achievement of having a ship renamed for him, she described it as an honor she never wanted but is grateful to have.

“I think it’s awesome that it’s a logistics ship, and Dave was a logistics officer,” she said. However, she pointed to a deeper connection as her source of solace during this difficult time. “He cast ripples,” she said. “His spirit and leadership inspired so many, just as the ship that bears his name will continue to make ripples.”

On Aug. 11, 2014, Dana and her family, alongside Jeannie and Robert Lyon, were at MOTSU to christen and tour the vessel before it departed to perform its wartime mission. Seeing it for the first time, the pride they feel is tempered by the lingering immediacy of their bereavement.

Words come slowly at first, and voices are thick with emotion.

However, as Dana, a world-class javelin thrower and 2008 Olympic-hopeful, launched a bottle of champagne and it smashed against the hull, a thunderous cheer erupted from family members and onlookers alike, and the somber mood was instantly transformed to one of celebration.

The newly christened Motor Vessel Capt. David I. Lyon is an Air Force prepositioning vessel, which will transport 12.5 million pounds of munitions, or as much as 78 fully loaded C-17 Globemaster III aircraft, overseas to support the warfighter.

“It’s kind of like he’s come full circle,” Dana said. “Dave never got a chance to work supply, and now, a supply ship is named after him. Even though he is gone, his life, his purpose, his mission will continue.”
 

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Jura, only the SSC and any up armed LCS will be called frigates. Current LCS, and future LCS will remain LCS unless and until they receive up armaments.

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No one seems to like these ships, so where exactly is the motivation to build them coming from? Even the F-35 has its supporters, but every time I see the LCS discussed on defense news outlets its never positive and mostly deriding their lack of capability and overall mismanagement of the program. Are they being built purely for political reasons, are Austal and Lockheed's shipbuilding capabilities in jeopardy without these ships? I just don't get the decision to build these ships, especially after they decided to reevaluate the program and had a chance to go with something different. Changing the class designation to frigate hasn't helped either, in fact, some people seem outright offended calling them that.
 

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No one seems to like these ships, so where exactly is the motivation to build them coming from? Even the F-35 has its supporters, but every time I see the LCS discussed on defense news outlets its never positive and mostly deriding their lack of capability and overall mismanagement of the program. Are they being built purely for political reasons, are Austal and Lockheed's shipbuilding capabilities in jeopardy without these ships? I just don't get the decision to build these ships, especially after they decided to reevaluate the program and had a chance to go with something different. Changing the class designation to frigate hasn't helped either, in fact, some people seem outright offended calling them that.

Yours is a very good question that many of us have similarly asked in different form from various times. There is a long and a short answer and I will try the latter route which is found in a Defence News article published in 2012. In that article, it attempts to address many of the issues surrounding the program and in my view is best summed up by the following quote from that article "The U.S. Navy’s requirements document for the LCS says it must be able to operate offensively in multi threat environments — areas that would include the Arabian Gulf or the Yellow Sea — but until a solution is found, the assessments call for a CONOPS more consistent with the ships’ capabilities, and suggest the need for studies to increase LCS combat power." The recent announced changes to the LCS program essentially did just that.

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“One thing I will say about possible use of the V-22 is that is a great example of the Navy and Marine Corps team working together,” said Mabus, since the Osprey is already in widespread service with the Marines. “It’s also a great example of using a proven manufacturing process, a proven asset, to get lower cost, instead of starting over on a complete new system.”
 
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BAE touts APKWS for IS battle
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LONDON
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12:52 15 Jan 2015
BAE Systems is touting the incorporation of its precision rocket guided system into the US Air Force’s fixed-wing inventory, where it could be utilised in the fight against Islamic State militants.

The Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System (APKWS) is currently used on some of the US Marine Corps’ rotary platforms – the Bell UH-1Y Venoms and AH-1W Cobras – but BAE says it could be optimised for fixed-wing aircraft for the air force.

“We continue to talk to the
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, the Air National Guard and the Marine Corps, to figure out what it might take to bring just a slightly modified rotary wing variant to those fixed wing platforms – and get it fielded urgently because there are [suitable] platforms that are in the fight today,” Dave Harrold, product line director for APKWS at BAE Systems, tells Flightglobal.

Under US Central Command-funded testing, the
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’s Fairchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt and
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F-16, as well as USMC’s
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AV-8B Harrier II, have already been tested with APKWS modified for fixed-wing aircraft. This demonstrates that it can be done, Harrold says.

“We continue to push forward with that, because we definitely believe that the F-16 would benefit from this, not just in the United States, but in international fleets. And in particular in the current fight, the A-10 could utilise this weapon very effectively.”



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The APKWS would offer a lower-cost weapon that is suited to neutralising the targets the US-led coalition is tackling in Iraq and Syria under its Operation Inherent Resolve, Harrold says.

“It is a shame that it is not there today, because when we’re worried about the rising cost of the effort – particularly as it applies to the cost of the weapons systems that we’re deploying and the targets being engaged – APKWS is an extremely appropriate system and would be very highly effective in the current engagement,” Harrold adds.

The Lockheed Martin AGM-114 Hellfire missile is being used by manned and unmanned aircraft in Iraq and Syria. Harrold says this is too costly and has an unnecessary level of lethality for the mission at hand.

“When I look at those things, I think APKWS – at a third of the cost of a Hellfire and much more ideally suited for soft and lightly armoured targets than a much larger weapon system – is something that needs to get into the inventory and into that fight right away.”

In December last year BAE received a $45 million contract from the US Navy for the fourth full rate production order for 1,601 APKWS for the USMC.

The funds come from both the FY2015 procurement ammunition budget and the DoD’s overseas contingency operations funds, with the contract to be completed by September 2016.

BAE also hopes to receive a contract from the US Army at some point in 2015 for initial use of the AWPKS on its
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helicopters.

“We are very close with the army, and the army is working very closely with the US Navy to ensure the right level of inventory and the right ability to purchase APKWS,” Harrold says.

“I anticipate seeing APKWS fielded initially on some US Army Apaches certainly in 2015, and hopefully within the first half of 2015.”
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Scorpion team reveals design changes, sales target for 2015
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Textron AirLand’s Scorpion programme is facing a busy 2015, with design enhancements and customer demonstrations set to dominate its activities amid optimism that a first sale will be announced.

“There are a lot of countries interested, and a lot of demonstrations to come this year,” says Dale Tutt, chief engineer and programme manager. Interest in the Scorpion has grown since its debut flight in December 2013, and in particular since the company brought the twin-engined type to the
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in the UK last July.


Speaking at the Royal Aeronautical Society in London on 14 January, Tutt and Textron AirLand chief test pilot Dan Hinson revealed previously undisclosed details about the programme’s achievements to date, and the changes being incorporated for a production-standard version.

Textron AirLand was formed with the goal of rapidly designing and flying an aircraft capable of meeting tasks ranging from close air support to aerospace control, maritime security and training. With a target acquisition price lower than $20 million, it was also to offer a per-hour operating cost of below $3,000 and be ready to enter production in 2016.

“We set some really audacious goals,” says Tutt, who also describes the project as “an incubator, to learn some lessons for the rest of Textron”. This includes the use of an all-composite, one-piece wing with a span of almost 14.6m (48ft). Where possible, the design team sourced parts such as valves and actuators from products such as
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’s Citation business jet, and avionics flight testing was performed using a 208 Caravan.

Achieved within 23 months of project launch, the time needed to reach first flight compares with an average of around five years for a new Cessna product, Tutt says, and with just 60% of the personnel. However, he stresses: “Going fast doesn’t mean taking short cuts.”

Since its debut, the company’s one prototype Scorpion has made 140 flights totalling a combined 275h, says Tutt. The design met its $3,000/h operating cost target in its first year, and demonstrated a 95% availability rate, he says, adding: “We’ve learned a lot from the current airplane.”

The next version of the Scorpion will feature new main landing gear. Tutt describes the current system as having been one of the programme’s biggest constraints: “We had a lot of trouble building it,” he says. An early issue with the gear not fully locking until contact was made with the runway was not permanently resolved until flight 43, the company reveals. The new trailing gear design will also free up an additional 68kg (150lb) in payload capacity for the platform.

“Externally the aircraft is going to look a lot like it does today,” says Tutt, with the fighter retaining the type’s innovative 4.3 x 0.9m (14 x 3ft) internal payload bay.

Other changes will include the integration of a trimmable horizontal stabiliser on the tail that was excluded from the prototype to reduce complexity. “We’ve been working on that since before we flew,” Tutt notes.

Another planned enhancement will be to move from the use of a current four multifunction displays in the rear cockpit to a single large screen, which test pilot Hinson says will support the type’s role in having a mission manager on board.

An icing issue encountered on departing Iceland for the UK last year has been addressed, with a wing and tail anti-icing system enhancement having entered flight testing on 9 January, Hinson says. The inlets for the type’s Honeywell TFE731 engines already had the feature.

With the Scorpion having been flown to a maximum of 455kt (843km/h), 45,000ft and demonstrated an endurance of 4.2h on internal fuel since its debut (above), Hinson adds: “We have completed all of our preliminary performance data. Everything is translating into the next airplane.”

Due to a busy schedule, Tutt says the team is hoping to tailor weapons testing planned to occur this year with the needs of possible buyers.

“Right now we’re actively working towards getting a customer. It’s not a matter of if – it’s when,” says Tutt. “We're positioned to deliver aircraft two years after a contract signature,” he notes, but adds that a first transfer before the end of 2016 could still be possible if an order were to be secured soon.

The company is also looking towards the certification process for the type, which will be performed to Federal Aviation Administration-approved US Air Force standards. “Our target customer is a military customer,” Tutt adds.

To support its sales objective, the Scorpion team is also planning to return to Europe in mid-year in order to exhibit the type at June’s
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