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Pure unmitigated hubris. You would think that after what happened to the Russians with the Moskva cruiser in the constrained waters of the Black Sea they would know better. That US CSG is just a giant target.
I don't know that the Moskva and a Carrier Strike Group are really the same thing in terms of ability to defend themselves from incoming attack (or that a CSG is, "just a giant target")... That being said, nothing is infallible so if some sort of attack happened there is always the chance a strike could be successful.
The Iranians have way more anti-shipping missiles than the Ukrainians ever did. As for the Mosvka, it was old tech at this point, but it was built as an air defense missile cruiser in the first place. It can carry a larger anti-air payload than an Arleigh Burke destroyer. A Slava class like the Moskva could carry 40 Osa SAMs, and 64 S-300 SAMs.
The Iranians have anti-ship ballistic missiles with 300 km range. The missiles have radar sensors. They also have loads of short and medium range subsonic anti-shipping cruise missiles mounted on fast boats, trucks, etc.
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How does Iran guide those ASBMs without satellite and/or HALE drones?
Can they maintain a relatively short list of sensor network nodes while targeting moving US fleets? I have questions if China can maintain its VAST numbers of space based and HALE kill chain in shooting war. Would seem relatively easy for the US to take out Iran's currently limited space based sensors.
I assumed one would need very high altitude surveillance and communication drones to guide hypersonic MaRV ASBMs. I wasn't aware Iran had any HALE drones with the communication and observation systems required to create an effective and resilient sensor network.
As far as I as aware, outside China and the US, no other nation has fielded any HALE drones a la Divine Eagle, WZ-8 or WZ-7.
Regardless of what altitude the drone operates at, it won't operate outside the reach of an US SM-2 missile.
The Iranians have drones with surface search radar. Good enough.
Iran does have HALE drones:
They aren't quite at the level of Chinese ones but good enough.
The Iranians have drones with surface search radar. Good enough.
Iran does have HALE drones:
They aren't quite at the level of Chinese ones but good enough.
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Well supposedly one of the main challenges of establishing communication with HGV or MaRV is getting around the ionised air. Chinese method to get around this is with relay HALE drones. Available information is built on speculation though. Drones and satellites perform targeting and communication data.
How does another ship act as spotter and relay both targeting information and guidance? Considering the US would no doubt sink any and all vessels acting in this role even if they pretend to be "civilian". In protecting her carrier fleets from Iranian ASBMs, I'm pretty sure they'd issue some warnings to stay away or be sunk.