Ukrainian War Developments

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RedMetalSeadramon

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A allegedly leaked Ukrainian document posted on reddit:



Any Ukrainian or Russian experts comment on the authenticity of this?
More than 40% of the territory of Ukraine is captured and controlled by units of the Russian Armed Forces.
The civilian population continues to hastily leave the territory of Ukraine (as of 04.03.2022, 180 thousand people).
Conflicts between the Azov battalions and the Armed Forces of Ukraine have escalated.
The nationalist battalion completely got out of control.
Over 75% of the military potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been destroyed.
In this regard, I ask you to take part in a closed extraordinary meeting of the Office of the RNBO of Ukraine, which is scheduled for 17:00 on 04.03.2022.

I dont find it to be real, I dont think those two topics would not be mentioned in a meeting like this, nor would be brought up in this manner. It also reads more like an open letter rather than a meeting call.
 

sndef888

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I would imagine the order of difficulty for Russian operational forces in the north and east should be something like this:

EASIEST
Surround Chernihiv
Surround Sumy

EASIER
Take Chernihiv
Take Sumy

HARDER
Surround Kharkhiv

EVEN HARDER
Take Kharkiv
Surround Kiev

HARDEST
Take Kiev

The fact that they have not been able to achieve the "easiest" on the list suggests that they are completely stalled out. Where exactly is the Russian advantage?

- According to reports a substantial majority of the Ukrainian air force is still active
- Ukrainian command & control is still active
- Anti-tank and Anti-armor weapons are pouring into Ukraine
- Ukrainian anti-aircraft is still active
- The US is providing Ukraine intelligence on Russian communications & movements within 30-60 minutes
- Russia didn't commit enough troops for a decisive manpower advantage
- Russians are less familiar with the local terrain & the local population are hostile

After considering all these factors, I don't see where Russia has any advantage left. It seems that this is ready to settle into WWI-style trench warfare. IMO unless there is something shocking factor that we don't know about, Russia should focus on completing the 'easy' tasks like sieging Chernihiv rather than trying to take Kiev. But the main thing is that Russia has to prepare for a medium to longer term war.
I'll admit, i thought russia was going to surround and take kharkiv and kiev soon after mariupol but things seem to be going way more slowly now. This could easily turn into another afghanistan if they don't up their game soon
 

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Sanctions failed so many times but the West just keeps trying and hoping for a different outcome this time.
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Didn't the West just ban RT and many pro-Russian media and people.
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It is only going to drive up the oil prices in the US. Guess this is what the big oil wants.
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The PBS interview is a good demonstration of hypocrites. Blurring the painting of a Nazi collaborator to hide the fact the mayor is a Nazi sympathizer. The West during the cold war had trained so many Islamic extremists and today they made the same mistakes of enabling Nazi and fascists. They never learned that their actions today would come back to bite their ass one day.
The blurred image is of Stepan Bandera, who's officially honored as a Hero of Ukraine.
It's easy to demonize Бандерівці, but has anyone else here ever known one?

Before 2014, I (a speaker of Russian) had a long conversation with a Ukrainian nationalist student.
He proudly said that his grandfather was a 'general' (his word) in a Ukrainian army that had fought against the USSR.
Although he was vague about some details, I knew enough of history to know that he was referring to the OUN.
His grandfather was a follower of Stepan Bandera.

He told me that his grandfather's village in western Ukraine had welcomed the German soldiers as their 'liberators'.
The women and girls had thrown flowers and offered bread to the Germans. Every young man in the village had
volunteered to fight alongside the Germans against Stalin. That's how his grandfather's war had begun.

How did it end? My impression is that his grandfather was one of the Ukrainian nationalists who had kept fighting
the USSR even after Germany had surrendered. His grandfather could not have expected any mercy from Stalin.
Before his death, he had urged his children (including the student's parent) to keep fighting the good fight for Ukraine.
This student told me that he hoped to enter politics in Ukraine someday and live up to his grandfather's heroic legacy.

Although he and I sometimes disagreed, our conversation was amicable. My impression was that he liked me.
At that time, it was far-fetched that Russia and Ukraine would ever be at war against each other.
I don't know where he is today. If he's in Ukraine, then he presumably would be fighting against Russia.
I never thought of him as an enemy. I don't demonize him or dehumanize him. I hope that he survives.

Every war must end. In order to build a lasting peace, one should strive to have enough understanding, if not
some respect, for one's former enemies' motives.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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I'll admit, i thought russia was going to surround and take kharkiv and kiev soon after mariupol but things seem to be going way more slowly now. This could easily turn into another afghanistan if they don't up their game soon

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That was after 10 years of a low intensity war of attrition designed to starve them out.
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. Most of the land in Iraq is desert with no cover. They were surrounded by enemies with no help. US forces outnumbered Iraq's in 1991 even.

Ukraine is 40 million people and has a bigger army than Russian expeditionary forces. Kiev is only 3 million, they are much more spread out. They also have resupply. They border EU. They're getting intel feeds. This is just week 2.

I'd be worried about that at maybe 1 month.
 

meckhardt98

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The Romanians had lost a Mig-21 yesterday near the Ukrainian border adjacent to the Black Sea after an explosion had been recorded. A IAR-330 had been dispatched for search and rescue efforts and then proceeded to crash; 7 dead total.

NATO is now launching an investigation after numerous accusations of Russian interference or direct interception.
 

gelgoog

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They officially said it was the "weather" which crashed that MiG-21. Right...
This was allegedly after they let that Su-27 pilot which landed in Romania go back into Ukraine.
I heard people say the MiG-21 was escorting the Ukrainian Su-27 back into Ukraine.

A allegedly leaked Ukrainian document posted on reddit:
Any Ukrainian or Russian experts comment on the authenticity of this?
There were rumors the Ukrainian Army used a Tochka-B missile around Mariupol to strike a Russian command post. This supposedly led to the death of a Russian general. The Ukrainian Army also supposedly sent another Tochka-B missile into the HQ of the Azov after they refused to follow orders from their command. Supposedly lot of Azov Battalion leadership died from that.
I can't say I believe this stuff but the rumor is going around.
 
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meckhardt98

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Microsoft announced today that it will be suspending any future sales and services within the Russian federation in compliance with U.S. sanctions for the foreseeable future.

They will honor any pre-existing deals and services until they expire; Russia predominantly uses Microsoft products and services, most notably Windows OS.
 

tokenanalyst

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Microsoft announced today that it will be suspending any future sales and services within the Russian federation in compliance with U.S. sanctions for the foreseeable future.

They will honor any pre-existing deals and services until they expire; Russia predominantly uses Microsoft products and services, most notably Windows OS.
I never knew anyone pay for Microsoft products in Russia.
 
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