TerraN_EmpirE
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Continuation of the SA80 history, The Midget bull. The L22A2 and Carbine SA80 rifles.
So as The videos has pointed out the Program of the SA80 started back in the 70's by Enfield and faced issues throughout. Although the weapon functions and has served now over 20 years. It has been lackluster.
First this is the Rifle the SA80 replaced the L1A1 AKA the SLR, A British produced Semiauto only FN FAL. This Rifle was used in Northern Ireland, The Falklands and more or less phased out by 1998 with maybe a few in the back of the back of the Armory.
A full Nato Spec battle Rifle 7.62x51mm. Ironically This old beast loaded weight about the same as a L85A1 with loaded magazine and Optical sight. Speaking of Northern Ireland the Rifle that had a huge influence on the gas system of the SA80 series was a weapon popular with the Provisional IRA the AR 18, This Rifle Known as the "Widowmaker" is perhaps the third most influential rifle of the late 20th early 21st century after the STG44 and the AK as although it never really was adopted by any real army
Its influence though is visible in the SA80s the SR88, HK G36, Howa Type 89, And when interbred with the AR15 the Taiwanese T65, HK416 and more. Given the events of It's use against British forces I think Any chance of Widespread adoption of the Sterling Armaments Company production AR 180 or AR18 or SAR 87 were a no go.
Other point of interest even as the British were Adopting the L85 and L86 or had been in service for sometime British units like the PARA, SAS and Pathfinders used other rifles. Like the Colt M16, CAR15 and more recently the Diemaco L119A1/L119A2 the C8 ( Based on AR15 series). Somewhat Ironic as Traditionally the Canadians used British Rifles now the British Use Canadian.
In Afghanistan the British kinda stepped away from the L86A1 with adoption of the L129A1 Sharp shooter rifle
And they have also used the FN Minimi Designated the L108/a1/L110A2/L110A3
All of which could fill the Whole mission set of the SA80 if the MOD chose to retire the Rifles. However all indications are the British are still trying to keep the L85 and L86 alive.
First this is the Rifle the SA80 replaced the L1A1 AKA the SLR, A British produced Semiauto only FN FAL. This Rifle was used in Northern Ireland, The Falklands and more or less phased out by 1998 with maybe a few in the back of the back of the Armory.
A full Nato Spec battle Rifle 7.62x51mm. Ironically This old beast loaded weight about the same as a L85A1 with loaded magazine and Optical sight. Speaking of Northern Ireland the Rifle that had a huge influence on the gas system of the SA80 series was a weapon popular with the Provisional IRA the AR 18, This Rifle Known as the "Widowmaker" is perhaps the third most influential rifle of the late 20th early 21st century after the STG44 and the AK as although it never really was adopted by any real army
Its influence though is visible in the SA80s the SR88, HK G36, Howa Type 89, And when interbred with the AR15 the Taiwanese T65, HK416 and more. Given the events of It's use against British forces I think Any chance of Widespread adoption of the Sterling Armaments Company production AR 180 or AR18 or SAR 87 were a no go.
Other point of interest even as the British were Adopting the L85 and L86 or had been in service for sometime British units like the PARA, SAS and Pathfinders used other rifles. Like the Colt M16, CAR15 and more recently the Diemaco L119A1/L119A2 the C8 ( Based on AR15 series). Somewhat Ironic as Traditionally the Canadians used British Rifles now the British Use Canadian.
In Afghanistan the British kinda stepped away from the L86A1 with adoption of the L129A1 Sharp shooter rifle
And they have also used the FN Minimi Designated the L108/a1/L110A2/L110A3
All of which could fill the Whole mission set of the SA80 if the MOD chose to retire the Rifles. However all indications are the British are still trying to keep the L85 and L86 alive.
Obi Wan.. what caused this issue? This is serious. I invite all members to read the entire article...sorry if this is a re-post. The article is dated April of this year.